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In my experience, left wingers in 2025 would push for Rivians or Lucids and not push for Teslas. YMMV.
Yes definitely true, I mean why wouldn't they? Elon is a grifter even if you are conservative you should be suspicious. He's not a conservative he's just using the platform for his own benefit and it won't help anyone anywhere.
 
Do you contend that Democrats contributed less to the sales of Tesla Model Ys in the United States in 2025 than Republicans?
 
You seem or act like you have all the answers so you can tell us who bought Teslas and who bought every other EV out there.
 
Are you still trying to just find a way to say the killer was targeting conservatives or is this a meaningful conversation about how conservatives actually do care about EVs but only Tesla's?
 
Well, the Tesla Model Y did come out in 2020, Q1 IIRC.

Elon Musk left Democrats in May 2022. Democrats had about 2 years of buying Tesla Ys with a clear conscience, but Wolkenflieger was specific about the 2025 year so if we focus on polls from that year, Republicans were far more likely to be buyers than Democrats.

Bro imagine being such a political wack job you obsess over a company ceo’s personal life instead of buying the best car for you based on merit LMAO

Thank God I was raised by smart people
 
Are you still trying to just find a way to say the killer was targeting conservatives or is this a meaningful conversation about how conservatives actually do care about EVs but only Tesla's?
Seems like his point is that EV’s are pretty universally accepted and have nothing to do with politics. The only people that were violent against EV’s are 🍌s in any sort of recent timeframe.

And nothing so far has shown the shooter targeted the couple because of the brand of car or that it was an EV
 
How many Democrats would recommend Tesla Ys in 2025?

Also relevant to Wolkenflieger's post, Toyota donated 1 million dollars to Trump's 2025 inauguration. I'd imagine that news didn't sit well with Democrats in the market for a Corolla in 2025.

Omg Toyota are literal 🥨s!!!! Time to peacefully set them on fire and promote 🥨 ideology by drawing swastikas everywhere! Lmao!!
 
Are you still trying to just find a way to say the killer was targeting conservatives or is this a meaningful conversation about how conservatives actually do care about EVs but only Tesla's?
Neither. I'm trying to piece together an explanation for why Democrats/🍌s hate Tesla, yet Tesla Y was the 9th best-selling car in the U.S. in 2025 and 2nd best-selling car worldwide in 2025.
 
Neither. I'm trying to piece together an explanation for why Democrats/🍌s hate Tesla, yet Tesla Y was the 9th best-selling car in the U.S. in 2025 and 2nd best-selling car worldwide in 2025.
well most people even democrats don't actually care they will just buy what they want, but also you have to consider that in 2025 Tesla only had 2 main models, Tesla isn't even in the top ten for total cars by manufacturer https://www.best-selling-cars.com/u...ght-vehicle-and-car-manufacturers-and-brands/
 
Neither. I'm trying to piece together an explanation for why Democrats/🍌s hate Tesla, yet Tesla Y was the 9th best-selling car in the U.S. in 2025 and 2nd best-selling car worldwide in 2025.
It's political. I mean, there's a long list of what 🍌s hate (often for no good reason or nothing based in actual evidence), but with Elon it has to do with resisting the COVID lockdowns, having the audacity and ability to rescue stranded NASA astronauts when stupid Biden refused because they didn't want to give Elon a "win", moving his business headquarters out of California, buying and saving Twitter (now X) and opening up speech to everyone (not just 🍌s), helping Trump get elected both financially and in-person, railing against 🍌 policies/men in women's sports/woke ideology, noticing the 🍌s pulling the strings of Earth's chatroom (Twitter, the Twitter files), railing against gender-affirming care, and now he's pledged to help Republicans win the mid-terms (financially). I'm sure there's more but that's off the top of my head.

Some 🍌s (AOC, Bernie, Lizzie) falsely-claimed that Elon never paid taxes in 2018, when Elon OVERPAID in 2017 and thus didn't have to pay in 2018. He's paid more tax than any other American in history, but does that stop the avalanche of 🍌 lies? No.

There's a very good reason I left the Left, because they went frickin' crazy.
 
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Funny how people who've never driven a Tesla and probably been inside of one have such strong yet uninformed opinions. Meanwhile, I know gas cars, motorcycles, and I've owned more than one brand of EV.
You have some serious insecurities man, no one has even criticized the quality of a Tesla in this thread and you are over here bring defensive. You are so weird!
 
I know what the difference isaybe i.just understand what you are trying to say. The Tesla has a popular model but they only make a couple whereas other manufacturers sell a lot more cars in total. More kias are sold here than teslas
You still got some very basic facts wrong, and now you're moving the goalposts. Tesla has many models as we've pointed out. Also, selling more models is a WEAKNESS, not a strength. Tesla doesn't need to have 5 zillion models to find buyers. They just make category killers for each category which is why one of the reasons they're so popular.

Answer a simple question if you would. Have you ever driven a Tesla? How about any other EV?

Thanks.
 
Which shows that all the people who "abandoned" Tesla either went back to gas despite any "green" politics or were so few in number that they never really mattered.

BTW, Tesla jumped to 11th place for the first half of 2026. Guess the Democrat boycott failed.

 
Which shows that all the people who "abandoned" Tesla either went back to gas despite any "green" politics or were so few in number that they never really mattered.

BTW, Tesla jumped to 11th place for the first half of 2026. Guess the Democrat boycott failed.

We Tesla owners have talked about this demo shift. Sure, Tesla has lost some committed liberal ideologues, but they've gained plenty of conservatives. Some are just tech people or objective types who just want the best car/EV they can buy with the best charging network.

Anyone who doubts any of this should just rent a Tesla, but a lot of haters out there have never even been inside of a Tesla or other EV.

That Tesla Supercharging network charges other marques too. Tesla could have tried to create a tech moat with their supercharging network but they didn't. It's pretty cool that Rivians and Hyundais can charge at a Supercharger, even if some of the other manufacturers put their ports in the wrong place. All of that will resolve itself over time as the Tesla NACS (North American Charging Standard) takes hold with time for manufacturers to adapt their designs.
 
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