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CCW Santa Clara County CCW Thread

My CCW permit Diary

CCW Permit Process Overview


CCW requirements vary by jurisdiction but must conform to a framework dictated by the State. Currently that framework is the bill “SB2”, which is facing numerous legal challenges, some of which have been successful. Each county sheriff and every city can issue a CCW permit. Example: I live in Campbell. I can apply to the city of Campbell or the County of Santa Clara. They all have somewhat different rules as to number of guns, caliber, differences in training like the addition of a psychological interview, cost, course of fire for qualifying, and other variables. You have two choices; the city where you live or the county where you live.

The state has some mandated basics including three guns maximum and 16 hours of instruction some of which is qualifying at a shooting range with your chosen guns. Instructors must be approved by the DOJ which means police firearms instructors. Your permit is good for 2 years and then must be renewed. The renewal process involves some classroom and some range qualifying, for a total of 8 hours, but no background investigation or psych testing. I applied to the Santa Clara County Sheriff for my permit.



The Basic Sequence of Events:

1) Sign up on Permitium website for Santa Clara County Sheriff

2) Check back frequently for closer available interview dates

3) In person interview at Sheriff Dept.

4) Written Psych tests

5) Online psych interview

6) Livescan finger printing

7) 16 hours of class and range training. You have choice of several approved trainers

8) Upload certificate and signed proficiency document

9) Reference check

10) Permit is granted

My Experience with Santa Clara Sheriff Office CCW Process:

DATEACTIVITYCOSTNOTE
4/13/24Online Santa Clara County Sheriff CCW345.02Filled out application on Permitium website. Interview appointment for 5/3/2025. Over 1 year away! Your permit will be for up to 3 guns. You must list the guns, with serial numbers, that you will carry. Upload CDL and utility bills.
4/23/24Reschedule interview to 7/2/240Checked back daily for sooner interview opening and rescheduled for 7/2/24. This was a piece of very good luck!
7/2/24CCW Interview with Sheriff030-minute interview at sheriff dept. Questions include app review plus discussion of any past conflict incidents or police contact, job firings and past marriages. Plenty of parking. Pleasant interview.
8/7/24Found old LEPS 7/15/24 email in spam. This sat in spam for about 3 weeks!0Searched spam folder for “LEPS” came up with amateur looking $500 cost, sign up email for CCW psych test. Thought it was fake so wrote to SCCSO and found out it was real! Signed up for Zoom meeting on 8/12. Lesson learned: Search SPAM for “LEPS” and the cost is (since AB2) $500. Sherrif replied quickly to my inquiry.
8/8/24Signed up for Zoom written psych test500.00Upload CDL copy and had to answer a few online questions about drinking and racial conflict. Zoom monitored written exam scheduled for 8/12/24 at 8 AM. You need a quiet place with good internet connection.
8/12/24Online written psych test(s)0Logged in for online Zoom testing at 8AM. There were 10-12 of us and we could see each other. You could DM the proctor with questions. You cannot leave the test.
There were 4 tests. Three were very similar and all tests mainly asked questions about aggression, alcohol, depression and theft. Read carefully, a quick read could cause you to get the wrong meaning for the question. I finished way sooner than the 5 hours allowed. Got scheduling email later in the day and have an online psych interview scheduled on 8/19.
8/19/24MS Teams online psych interview.0About 30 minutes talking with a nice young woman who was the psychologist. Some initial problems with MS Teams audio. Basic questions about your life and past. Any arrests, childhood abuse, domestic violence, getting fired, driving problems, accidents, etc. Pleasant experience.
8/23/24Psych Okay and Livescan123.00Received an email from Sheriff / Permitium that I had passed the psych evaluation and can submit my fingerprint Livescan. The email had a link to complete the Livescan form. The Sheriff does livescans for $66 but is booked weeks out. I printed the form and went to Meridian Live Scan in San Jose. The woman there was very familiar with the process and wait times. At the live scan your scan will be assigned an ATI Number. Be sure to keep this number because you can track your progress with it. The Livescan check is three parts: CA, FBI and Firearms. You can see the progress online.
8/26/24Scheduled class with Sabre Tactics399.00Even though the firearms portion of my Livescan is not cleared I signed up and scheduled Sabre because they are booking far out. Allowing 30 days for DOJ Firearms and two weeks for Sheriff response, I figured 10/24 was a good date which would give me 2 weeks leeway if something goes wrong. I can move Saber range qualification if need be.
8/27/24Livescan Firearms completedLivescan has three parts CA, FBI and Firearms. CA and FBI cleared the same day as the scan. I checked the DOJ web site, and the Firearms section was completed today, 8/27. That completes live scan. All background checks are done and passed.
8/30/24Re-scheduled range qualification for 9/28 and paid range fee40.00Re-scheduled final training to 9/28/24 ahead of hearing from Sheriff. Could be a problem if notice to proceed is delayed. Range fee of $40 is in addition to class fee.
9/4/24Email from SCCSO telling me that my livescan is okay and I now have 90 days to complete my required 16-hour training which includes range qualification. Reminded me to be sure to use one of the “SB2” approved trainers. I was previously able to move my 4-hour range day to 9/28/24 and will take my 12-hour classroom portion online with Sabre Tactics. The email was from “AutoPermitium”
9/4-13/24Online classroom 12-hour trainingTook the 12-hour classroom portion of the Saber Tactics 16-hour program. The lectures and videos are online, and you view them sequentially. The material was good and even though I have another state CCW I learned stuff. The training is geared towards a person with little CCW familiarity, which is good. I especially liked the use of force sessions and the holster information. I found the online format beneficial because I could do it at my own pace when I had the time, and I could also go back and re-view things I wanted more clarification on. I did this several times. There is a test at the end. Passing is 80% if I remember correctly.
9/28/24Range qualificationSaber Tactics 4-hour range qualification at Los Altos Rod and Gun Club. About 20 people from 4 different jurisdictions were at the training. For Santa Clara County our course of fire to qualify for CCW was 25 rounds per firearm as follows: 5 rounds at 15 yards, 2 sets of 5 rounds at 7 yards, and 2 sets of 5 rounds at 5 yards. “Passing” is 80% in the 7 ring of a B-27 target. You need to be able to carry 25 rounds in magazines or speed loaders. I used five magazines and five speed loaders which made the course of fire much easier without in process reloads. You are timed but the time limits are very generous.

You get a lot of safety training and excellent instruction on garment clearing, holstering, footwork and a lot of other stuff. Our instructor was a SWAT instructor. The quality of the session was excellent. They will send the completion paperwork by email which I must then print out, sign in blue ink, and upload to Permitium.
10/1/24Certificates ArriveReceived certs in email, printed, signed in blue ink, scanned and uploaded to my permitium account.
10/2/24SCCSO calls referencesThey called all three references in the afternoon. They connected with one, left a message with another and the call was faulty (no sound) on the third. They did not call back the faulty call. The call comes from 408-808-4942
10/4/2024Reference Checks Completed and final payment340.92Automated message telling me my permit is approved. Log into Permitium and pay my final fee. After paying I will be told how to get my permit. They had called the other references minutes before the message. Paid and am waiting for pickup instructions.
10/8/24Picked up permitAbout 10 minutes. My impression of the process is that, other than being much too long, it was a pleasant experience. There was no obstruction or passive resistance, the people I had contact with were pleasant, easy to deal with and focused on the goal.
Elapsed time4/14/24 to 9/8/24
Total cost$1,747.94Yikes!
 
Since i uploaded my certificate from saber tactics 10/3 i have not receive any email/text/vm or any confirmation that they are calling my reference’s. Check daily for any updates. None so far
 
Since i uploaded my certificate from saber tactics 10/3 i have not receive any email/text/vm or any confirmation that they are calling my reference’s. Check daily for any updates. None so far
When they completed my ref check I got an automated call from the LA area. I’ve heard that some people did not get references checked. May have something to do with when they applied. I managed to skip ahead 8 months but I started later so I’m in the post SB2 group. Not sure if that matters.
 
Applied 1/23, scheduled interview for 8/15/23 but have to reschedule due to work conflict. Next available was 6/24! I had my interview and apparently went well, I just got my email for the online psych exam, I scheduled it for next weekend. I guess it’s time to buy that p365 XComp I have been circling.
 
When they completed my ref check I got an automated call from the LA area. I’ve heard that some people did not get references checked. May have something to do with when they applied. I managed to skip ahead 8 months but I started later so I’m in the post SB2 group. Not sure if that matters.
Got my call from LA AREA last friday. Did my final payment. Received an email for the Sheriffs office to contact me, hopefully i can get my card this week
 
What is an "enhanced permit"?

It essentially is accepted in any state that has reciprocity with Idaho (with whatever restrictions that state has, usually capacity only). So I can carry in Washington (where I work a few times a week), most of the western states and pretty much all but the New England States.
 
Update:

Received my CCW on Thursday 3 October

Applied for Modification which is $20

Submitted my Modification Application that night 10/3

Friday 15 November got a call from Deputy at 0727 AM stating that when I am available to pick up

Friday 15 November at 0930 arrived at SC Sheriff and he took my in right away; surrender your old card and new pic taken and fingerprint

Was in and out within 10 mins had a little chat

Total waiting time for modification is 6 weeks per my experience - fyi they are busy.
 
What did you write for your “good cause” statement?

Thanks.
What did you write for your “good cause” statement?

Thanks.
I don’t recall a “good cause” question but the psychological interview person did ask why I wanted a permit. I simply answered truthfully. The whole process was handled fairly and in an unbiased manner. Just answering truthfully is the best method.
 
what happens if you let your CCW expire, do you have to go through the whole process again or just do a 'renewal'?
 
next year will start the wave of renewals that got the ccw last year, myself included.

it looks like they JACKED up the initial and renewal rates for SCC too. i hope they dont lag for renewals and be stuck not being to carry for a few weeks/months during the renewal process..

Santa Clara County gun owners will have to pay more for concealed carry weapons licenses — and threats of lawsuits are already rolling in.

The Board of Supervisors on Tuesday unanimously approved Sheriff Bob Jonsen’s proposal to hike the fees for new civilian licenses from $662 to $976. The standard renewal required every two years would go up from $187 to $447. Fees would not change for judges or law enforcement personnel.

The increases — applicable to residents of Cupertino, Los Altos Hills, Saratoga and the county’s unincorporated neighborhoods — would bring county fees more in line with other cities, such as Morgan Hill, which charges $945 for new licenses. San Jose charges $1,328.

Additional expenses come with applying, such as state-required fingerprinting and psychological evaluations. Applicants pay that separately.
 
what happens if you let your CCW expire, do you have to go through the whole process again or just do a 'renewal'?
I would assume you would have to redo everything all over again. And with the new guidelines and new price, yikes. I won't be surprised if the 3 reference needs to go sheriff station to get interviewed; instead of the phone call. Also, new guidelines will check social media as well.

They just make it more difficult to apply.

It's like they just try to discourage you from applying on all these hurdles that you have to go through along with the new prices.
 
I recall this or last year, San Bernardino Sheriff's system got hacked (or something) and they got a hall pass from DOJ to extend the 2-year life of CCW's a few months. Stunning they were allowed, but makes sense. Most impressive is they took action and not just leave their holders hanging, unlike many anti-2A Sheriffs..
 
The problem originates with the politicians. The people on the local level who administer the policy seem to be neutral or even pro CCW.
You get what you vote for.
 
For this morning's coffee. Pay-wall (https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/12...ermit-bribery-sentencing/?clearUserState=true). Below is a couple paragraphs;

SAN JOSE 12/17/2024 — A former Santa Clara County sheriff’s captain has been sentenced to 10 months in jail after he was convicted of bribery earlier this year in connection with a far-reaching corruption scandal over the agency’s issuing of concealed-gun licenses that ultimately took down the previous sheriff administration.

FILE PHOTO Santa Clara County Sheriff's Captain James Jensen is photographed outside of the Hall of Justice on Monday, Aug. 31, 2020, in San Jose, Calif. Jensen was found guilty on Wednesday, July 17, 2024, of felony bribery and conspiracy charges in a scandal that forced the departure of former sheriff Laurie Smith. (Aric Crabb/Bay Area News Group)
FILE PHOTO — Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Captain James Jensen is photographed outside of the Hall of Justice on Monday, Aug. 31, 2020, in San Jose, Calif. Jensen was found guilty on Wednesday, July 17, 2024, of felony bribery and conspiracy charges in a scandal that forced the departure of former sheriff Laurie Smith. (Aric Crabb/Bay Area News Group)
James Jensen is the highest-profile defendant convicted in what prosecutors characterized as a years-long pay-to-play scheme in which the sheriff’s office, under former leader Laurie Smith, traded concealed-carry weapon permits for political donations, favors and other in-kind support.

At a sentencing hearing Monday, Judge Nahal Iravani-Sani also ordered Jensen to serve two years of probation and perform 150 hours of community service with a gun-safety organization.

The judge’s sentence in many ways split the difference between the requests from Jensen’s attorneys, who sought probation only, and the district attorney’s office, which asked that Jensen be given a 16-month prison term in part to deter other public officials from engaging in similar crimes.

Iravani-Sani considered how Jensen was a high-ranking commander, saying Monday that the “position in which the breach of trust (occurred) is especially egregious.”

The judge added that “it is my hope the sentence will serve as a reminder of the high standards” expected of law enforcement officers and other public officials.
 
I would assume you would have to redo everything all over again. And with the new guidelines and new price, yikes. I won't be surprised if the 3 reference needs to go sheriff station to get interviewed; instead of the phone call. Also, new guidelines will check social media as well.

They just make it more difficult to apply.

It's like they just try to discourage you from applying on all these hurdles that you have to go through along with the new prices.
Need to get more lawsuits on this. The whole 'goos moral.character' is code word for 'good cause'. Either u pass the NICS or u don't. Psych exam, references, large fee etc have no historical precedence.
 
Need to get more lawsuits on this. The whole 'goos moral.character' is code word for 'good cause'. Either u pass the NICS or u don't. Psych exam, references, large fee etc have no historical precedence.
They don't because CCW permits are historically rather new. I get your point, but I'm fine with IA's poking around and seeing if a candidate is a pyscho/🐚 or not or you stole the Lindberg baby. When we have far less psychos, I'd feel less so inclined.
 
To be honest, I wish they were more strict on who they give permits too. When I was in LAPD interview was overhearing some other applicants, could not even properly show proof of residence.. do we really want people like that packing?? Just sayin..
 
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