CCW while on probation?

[RustVendor]

i did she basically said i can move forward it’s not guaranteed

That's your answer then.

 

[GeeQ87]

i did she basically said i can move forward but it’s not guaranteed

So you still ask us? Lmao well the

 

[goo-uh]

That's your answer then.

i was just trying to get some more opinions before i gamble my $360 app fee

 

[Gawernator]

regardless thank everyone for their input, was genuinely just looking for opinions. everyone on reddit was calling me a idiot too so i’m not suprised

Nah people here will give you legit advice at least. Reddit is gonna be so holier than thou I can only imagine

 

[goo-uh]

So you still ask us? Lmao well the

because at first she said i’d be prohibited for 5 years after i finish probation but then after checking again that’s only for alcohol/drug or violent/firearm related probations. then i kind of stopped trusting her opinion

 

[GeeQ87]

because at first she said i’d be prohibited for 5 years after i finish probation but then after checking again that’s only for alcohol/drug or violent/firearm related probations. then i kind of stopped trusting her opinion

Like we don’t trust you? Who are you, really? lol Good advice here but not going to keep us from busting your balls

 

[GeeQ87]

 

[Skilly]

On what basis could I be declined though? Maybe I don’t understand the process correctly but I thought pretty much if i’m not disqualified they can’t decline me just because of the charge itself with SB2

Good cause and Good moral character isn’t considered anymore and replaced with an objective “disqualified person” as far as I know, that’s why I’m saying I don’t believe im a disqualified person therefore they shall issue…

Alameda county digs into character enough to subject you to a $425 psych assessment - that gives them another out to disqualify you.

 

[SlayingMantis]

if i make it past the interview i should be fine on the psych assessment, but ur right they might try to use it to disqualify me when they really just don’t like the charge. but that would be wrong

Fine on the psych assessment?

 

[miles888]

I say go for it I want to see what happens

 

[oneaudiopro]

I'd work on making better decisions in your life before you start worrying about obtaining a CCW. smh

 

[nakatomi]

Could you give us some background on the identity theft charges? Your IA is going to know everything so a little context here would go a long way.

I have to say though 4 pages deep and everyone is still going back and forth on this. If you are trolling you deserve some kind of award because this thread has been an absolute masterclass.

 

[NorCALSpeed]

I think you're asking for an obective reason to an approval process that is clearly subjective. The laws cited say that the state looks at background details during assessments.

To quote Jim Carrey in Liar Liar, "Stop breaking the law..."

 

[SamHenry]

Breaking News “Alameda County man involved in recent shooting was issued a concealed weapons permit WHILE ON PROBATION” News at 11

 

[mrbieler]

Good moral character.
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Yep, odds of being declined based on moral character are pretty high.

From the LAPD CCW page:
The CCW License Holder always agrees to follow all Terms of Use and maintain good moral character. They must not engage in criminal activities or conduct themselves in any way other than a responsible and law-abiding citizen. The Los Angeles Police Department has the right to suspend or revoke a license if it is notified by the DOJ that the licensee is prohibited by state or federal law from owning or purchasing a firearm, or if the licensee engages in any criminal conduct or otherwise violates the Terms of Use.

What you were charged with is potentially enough to get your CCW pulled. What makes you think they would issue one?

 

[NorCalBusa]

Not going to read 4 pages. My advice is call the IA and ask them- and go with what they advise. You absolutely do NOT want to submit and be denied- that makes things sticky for another agency later and you the moment they see the Denied on there. Better to step back a year two, keep your nose clean, help old ladies cross the street in front of the police station. Make friends with a cop or three, let them get to know you and then run the possibility up the flagpole.

 

[dvoncock]

"Yes, identity theft is generally considered a Crime of Moral Turpitude (CIMT) under U.S. immigration and professional licensing law because it involves fraud, deceit, and dishonesty. [1, 2, 3]

Overview of Identity Theft as a CIMT

• • Fraud and Deception: A Crime Involving Moral Turpitude is an act that goes against community standards of honesty or morality. Because identity theft relies on trickery, misrepresentation, or stealing personal data for unlawful use, authorities usually classify it here. [1, 2]
  • Immigration Consequences: For non-citizens, a CIMT conviction can trigger serious penalties. It may lead to deportation, make a person inadmissible to the United States, or block them from proving "good moral character" for citizenship. [1, 2]
  • Professional Licensing: Convictions for moral turpitude crimes can disqualify individuals from holding state-issued professional licenses, such as nursing or contractor licenses"
    
    So yeah that charge is going to hurt you. I also had a misdemeanor for poss of AW, however I don't think they really cared. It was over 7 years ago, and it's a made up crime to begin with, they didn't even ask me much about it.

Likely, Alameda County—or any other investigating agency for that matter—doesn’t look to federal caselaw. But your instinct is spot on; PC 530.5 convictions are 100% a crime of moral turpitude under California caselaw, regardless of whether it’s a felony or misdemeanor.

 

[cali_jazz]

Alameda county digs into character enough to subject you to a $425 psych assessment - that gives them another out to disqualify you.

This was my thought, Alameda County is one of the strictest in CA in general which puts his chances at zero.

 

[goo-uh]

Feel like we are losing the plot, when i spoke to the ia she said about the identity theft just to just be honest and I should be okay, the only issue was when I mentioned probation so my question was really if probation itself is disqualifying when it is not related to drugs/alcohol, violence or firearms according to § 26202
( I do not have any firearm restrictions on my probation. )

 

[goo-uh]

Feel like we are losing the plot, when i spoke to the ia she said about the identity theft just to just be honest and I should be okay, the only issue was when I mentioned probation so my question was really if probation itself is disqualifying when it is not related to drugs/alcohol, violence or firearms according to § 26202
( I do not have any firearm restrictions on my probation. )

but after talking to you guys i understand where you are all coming from and obviously california and alameda county are going to look for any reason to say no so i wouldn’t be suprised if it is a no. i agree it would be crazy if it actually worked, imagine if ca was like florida or something and not stupid