This is why i usually just consign

[pancakes]

The lowballing here is why i just end up consigning

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Yeah, low ballers suck, the plague of any sale forum and irl.

 

[pancakes]

Yeah, low ballers suck, the plague of any sale forum and irl.

The line i hear the most is "well if you really need the money."

Im just trying to clean the safe up lol

 

[jboybird]

Not to hard to ignore man. Detach yourself from the lowballers ohmmmmm

 

[skb720]

Even though PPT will get me lots more $$ for my item, but sometimes I just don't have the energy or time to screen genuine buyers vs. scammers. Or meet up a buyer and they flake out.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

The line i hear the most is "well if you really need the money."

Im just trying to clean the safe up lol

Which honestly pisses me off more. No, I do not sell because I need the money, but you’re a douche bag for trying to take advantage of a fellow 2A / Forum member if they are indeed in a tight financial spot.

Least that’s the way I view it, which is why I would be a horrible businessman.

 

[lopez1171]

Unfortunately a Gen 4 Glock isn’t usually $500 around here

 

[pancakes]

Unfortunately a Gen 4 Glock isn’t usually $500 around here

anyone paying more than $500 for a gen 4 that isn't compatible with any other gen parts is a sucker. Its a glock. A echelon is a better product for the same price used.

Echelon is based off gen 3 but made into a FCU full ambi pistol.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Got two gun here for sale, either sells I would lose close to $300 on one, and closer to $500 or more on the other and people still low ball. Both like new, low round count and come with extras.

I get making an offer when someone is kinda high on their listing, but it gets ridiculous when you price items fairly that you just do not want to keep.

But, atleast you can “Ignore” button the worst offenders.

 

[Gawernator]

The lowballing here is why i just end up consigning

Lmao meanwhile I offer to pay a guy on here's asking price and he won't budge on going more than 10 min from his house, I live 1.5+ hours away from the East Bay, so I offer to drive all the way (buyer has to go twice ofc) and ask for a small $60 discount to cover mileage and suggest Elite Armory since they're nearby and a forum sponsor and the guy just ghosts me. On his gun that has been for sale for like 1.5 years. Nice. Saved me the money I guess

rant over

Lowballers never really bother me because the investment to read the message for 3 seconds doesn't really mean anything... though it makes you wonder. I had an optic on here that I sold at asking price, I already had it listed below new price on optics planet, the optic was like brand new, and included shipping in the price too. Still had idiots offering me like 60% off the sales price. Like I'm gonna sell it for the cost of a airsoft ebay red dot? lol idiots

 

[jkcerda]

1. if you don't try you will never know what deal you are missing out on.
2 not a single thing wrong with saying no or completely ignoring

 

[Gawernator]

1. if you don't try you will never know what deal you are missing out on.
2 not a single thing wrong with saying no or completely ignoring

Ignoring someone that lowballs you less than half asking price or whatever ridiculous price I think is ok

When someone has a gun for like $900 and you offer $750 as a starting point of negotiation I feel like it's rude to ignore but oh well. The art of negotiating is lost on many. A lot of guns on here have objectively sky high asking prices as well and sit for a long time yet you can't even make a decent offer

 

[Gawernator]

Unfortunately a Gen 4 Glock isn’t usually $500 around here

I get why people pay for them but it's still a sucker price. They're just not worth more than $400-500 used. People are making emotional deals - but it's a free country right

 

[RustVendor]

I price my stuff expecting lower offers, if it's too low make fun of them and move on.

 

[petargray]

Some buyers are just not savvy. Looking at somebody’s listings and feedback/etc it is pretty easy to see if they are roster exempt etc and not make dumb offers for things they can just buy cheap on their own.

 

[decius_mus]

You'll find lowballers in every marketplace. Just ignore them.

 

[jacrispies]

The art of negotiating is lost on many.

I strongly agree on this point. Caguns specifically has been an unusual experience for me. I believe California gun culture is in a bubble of some kind, different from other states and other hobbies.

I'm a big respect guy, and ghosting is disrespect. Not cool.

 

[john_marsten_1873]

anyone paying more than $500 for a gen 4 that isn't compatible with any other gen parts is a sucker. Its a glock. A echelon is a better product for the same price used.

Echelon is based off gen 3 but made into a FCU full ambi pistol.

Echelon isn’t compatible with any generation Glock parts if that’s what you mean.

However the Ruger RXM is fully modular based off gen 3 and is definitely a better buy than gen 4 Glocks.

Also, the Shadow Systems MR/XR920 is based off gen 4 Glock AND accepts G45/47.5 slides.

 

[cali_jazz]

Lowball buyers are annoying, but there’s another side to this:

We have plenty of sellers with ridiculous asking prices too, sometimes apparently expecting to recover every dollar they put into a gun. Guns aren't magically exempt from depreciation. Nobody buys a new car, drives it for a year, adds $5,000 in wheels and accessories, and expects the next owner to reimburse them for the car plus every dollar they spent modifying it. Yet we see that mentality with guns all the time. Accessories and modifications are usually even worse—a $500 optic, $300 trigger and $200 worth of other parts don't automatically add $1,000 to the used value, and often they're worth considerably less installed than they would be sold separately.

Off-roster guns in particular seem to bring out the worst of it. Yes, scarcity can justify a premium in California, but “off roster” doesn't automatically mean whatever number the seller decides to put on it.

Offering $600 on a fairly priced $1,000 gun is ridiculous, but asking $4,500 for something realistically worth $2,500 and hoping somebody who doesn't know better will bite is the other side of the same coin. Buyers are free to make offers, sellers are free to say no, and ultimately the market decides.

So yeah, offering $600 on a fairly priced $1,000 gun is ridiculous. But asking $4,500 for something realistically worth $2,500 and hoping somebody who doesn't know better will bite is the other side of the same coin.

Buyers are free to make offers, sellers are free to say no, and ultimately the market decides. A ridiculous offer takes about three seconds to decline or ignore.

(And if the alternative is consignment, where you're often giving up 20–30% of the selling price anyway, not to mention the mandatory waiting period before the gun can even be sold, why not list it here at a realistic price and give a fellow member a decent deal while still putting more money in your own pocket?)

 

[miles888]

Lowball buyers are annoying, but there’s another side to this:

We have plenty of sellers with ridiculous asking prices too, sometimes apparently expecting to recover every dollar they put into a gun. Guns aren't magically exempt from depreciation. Nobody buys a new car, drives it for a year, adds $5,000 in wheels and accessories, and expects the next owner to reimburse them for the car plus every dollar they spent modifying it. Yet we see that mentality with guns all the time. Accessories and modifications are usually even worse—a $500 optic, $300 trigger and $200 worth of other parts don't automatically add $1,000 to the used value, and often they're worth considerably less installed than they would be sold separately.

Off-roster guns in particular seem to bring out the worst of it. Yes, scarcity can justify a premium in California, but “off roster” doesn't automatically mean whatever number the seller decides to put on it.

So yeah, offering $600 on a fairly priced $1,000 gun is ridiculous. But asking $4,500 for something realistically worth $2,500 and hoping somebody who doesn't know better will bite is the other side of the same coin.

Buyers are free to make offers, sellers are free to say no, and ultimately the market decides. A ridiculous offer takes about three seconds to decline or ignore.

I was guilty of this. Had posted a lower for too much… ended up lowering the price then pretty quickly made a deal when I was back on Earth.

Sunk cost fallacy. But cash now is better than cash never.