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[BCar777]

Also interested to know. Mind is at 1.5 months and still waiting.

I remember seeing something like 2 months, on calguns forum, when it was still up.

Mine took exactly 3 months to Amend (added 3 guns to my permit

 

[nakatomi]

Really? How different the "tools" are? Is it really a rocket science to shoot Sig vs Glock?



Not even close. Different jets have really different dynamics.


I am not ok with anything that infringes my Constitutional right, either 1st, 2nd, or 27th.

I get your point about general competence. That matters.

But pistols are not just brand swaps. Different trigger systems, safeties, grip size, and recoil all change how the gun behaves and how accurate someone is under stress.

Now add the risk. If you mess up switching from a pickup to a sedan, the car still helps correct you. The margin for error is bigger.

A pistol has almost no margin for error. One bad trigger press or missed shot in a crowded place can seriously hurt someone.

That is the difference you are ignoring.

So the question is simple. If the risk is higher and the margin for error is smaller, why would you not verify someone can safely use the specific firearm they choose to carry?

If someone cannot be bothered to prove that, they should not be carrying it in public.

 

[supermike]

But pistols are not just brand swaps. Different trigger systems, safeties, grip size, and recoil all change how the gun behaves and how accurate someone is under stress.

a toyota Prius, tesle model 3, ford f450 with goose neck trailer, Porsche GT2RS, can all be driven under a simple class C license.
that goes for bikes too, 125cc to 1300cc same license..

 

[supermike]

My amendment took 91 days. Submitted on Jan 14th.

Mine took exactly 3 months to Amend (added 3 guns to my permit

I wonder what's the process/order, why my took 111 days, that's significantly longer...

 

[SomeOne]

I get your point about general competence. That matters.

But pistols are not just brand swaps. Different trigger systems, safeties, grip size, and recoil all change how the gun behaves and how accurate someone is under stress.

Electric cars vs gas cars. Compact vs pickup truck. Different braking systems, different steering, different dynamics. Same license. No retest.

Now add the risk. If you mess up switching from a pickup to a sedan, the car still helps correct you. The margin for error is bigger.

Serious?

A pistol has almost no margin for error. One bad trigger press or missed shot in a crowded place can seriously hurt someone.

That is the difference you are ignoring.

One bad brake push can seriously hurt someone. Have a better argument?

So the question is simple. If the risk is higher and the margin for error is smaller, why would you not verify someone can safely use the specific firearm they choose to carry?

Is it higher? Or is it your scare of the guns?

If someone cannot be bothered to prove that, they should not be carrying it in public.

Prove your Constitutional right? What other right needs a proof in your view?

 

[nakatomi]

The CCW process should be faster more affordable and more consistent. Long wait times and high costs are difficult to justify. I think we agree that part should not be controversial.

A key issue is "what qualification is meant to represent once it is required". The current system already requires applicants to qualify w the firearms they list. Already. My point is that this should reflect familiarity w those specific firearms not just general experience.

This is not about adding complexity but about ensuring that qualification aligns with what is actually being carried.

There is also a structural difference from driving that is being overlooked. A driver’s license is broad and applies across vehicles. CCW permits are not structured that way. They are tied to the individual and to specific firearms. Whether someone agrees with that model or not it is how the current system is built.

Given that structure aligning qualification w the listed firearms is simply keeping the system internally consistent.

If someone is already competent demonstrating that with the firearm they intend to carry should be straightforward and not a meaningful burden. If it isn't affordable and consistent across different IAs then it goes back to the first issue at the top.

I am not arguing for expanding requirements. I am saying that if a requirement exists it should be applied in a way that accurately reflects what it is intended to measure.

 

[nakatomi]

There is a structural point that does not map cleanly to the driving analogy.

A DL is broad and applies across vehicles. A CCW permit is structured differently. It is tied to the individual and to specific firearms. Under the current system a person cannot carry just any firearm.. it must be registered to them and listed on their permit.

Whether someone agrees w that structure or not it is how the system is set up today. A broader shift toward something like constitutional carry would be a separate discussion and I am not opposed to that.

If the argument is to change the system to operate more like a general license that is a larger policy question. Even within this community there is no clear consensus on that point which reflects how difficult it is to move the overall framework in that direction.

 

[SomeOne]

The CCW process should be faster more affordable and more consistent. Long wait times and high costs are difficult to justify. I think we agree that part should not be controversial.

A key issue is "what qualification is meant to represent once it is required". The current system already requires applicants to qualify w the firearms they list. Already. My point is that this should reflect familiarity w those specific firearms not just general experience.

This is not about adding complexity but about ensuring that qualification aligns with what is actually being carried.

There is also a structural difference from driving that is being overlooked. A driver’s license is broad and applies across vehicles. CCW permits are not structured that way. They are tied to the individual and to specific firearms. Whether someone agrees with that model or not it is how the current system is built.

Given that structure aligning qualification w the listed firearms is simply keeping the system internally consistent.

If someone is already competent demonstrating that with the firearm they intend to carry should be straightforward and not a meaningful burden. If it isn't affordable and consistent across different IAs then it goes back to the first issue at the top.

I am not arguing for expanding requirements. I am saying that if a requirement exists it should be applied in a way that accurately reflects what it is intended to measure.

WRONG!!!
If you can own the gun, you should be able to carry it.
PERIOD.

 

[SomeOne]

There is a structural point that does not map cleanly to the driving analogy.

A DL is broad and applies across vehicles. A CCW permit is structured differently. It is tied to the individual and to specific firearms. Under the current system a person cannot carry just any firearm.. it must be registered to them and listed on their permit.

Whether someone agrees w that structure or not it is how the system is set up today. A broader shift toward something like constitutional carry would be a separate discussion and I am not opposed to that.

If the argument is to change the system to operate more like a general license that is a larger policy question. Even within this community there is no clear consensus on that point which reflects how difficult it is to move the overall framework in that direction.

Driving on a public road is a PRIVILEGE.
2A is a RIGHT!

P.S. You libtard conformism is astounding!!!

 

[guns&brew]

Luna Tactical is great!

What range does he use for training? Website was sorta cryptic about location.

 

[golfjitsu]

Anyone have insight on the Livescan timeline? I'm an initial applicant, not renewal.
4/30/2025 - Livescan submitted
6/01/2025 - Interview with OC Sheriff Professional Standards Division. Interviewer allowed me to add additional guns via email the same day.
6/09/2025 - Completed all training and Certification uploaded and confirmed through CCW Pro and Professional Standards Division via email
6/12/2025 - CCW Pro Status: Pending Livescan. CADOJ Applicant Background Check Status: Type-Firearms. Status-In Progress

My assumption is the added firearms on 6/01 are taking a while to check into? I'm just not sure.

 

[BCar777]

Anyone have insight on the Livescan timeline? I'm an initial applicant, not renewal.
4/30/2025 - Livescan submitted
6/01/2025 - Interview with OC Sheriff Professional Standards Division. Interviewer allowed me to add additional guns via email the same day.
6/09/2025 - Completed all training and Certification uploaded and confirmed through CCW Pro and Professional Standards Division via email
6/12/2025 - CCW Pro Status: Pending Livescan. CADOJ Applicant Background Check Status: Type-Firearms. Status-In Progress

My assumption is the added firearms on 6/01 are taking a while to check into? I'm just not sure.

It’s really quick. At least here in SoCal Orange County

 

[Hindsight]

Livescan can be as quick as within 24 hours or less. Pretty sure all parts of mine cleared in 24 hours or less the past few times even though the firearms portion of the check can sometimes take longer.

 

[ectocharging]

Anyone have insight on the Livescan timeline? I'm an initial applicant, not renewal.

Did mine back in March. The CA and FBI portion only took two days. The firearms part took 10 business days.

 

[Gawernator]

a toyota Prius, tesle model 3, ford f450 with goose neck trailer, Porsche GT2RS, can all be driven under a simple class C license.
that goes for bikes too, 125cc to 1300cc same license..

Ironically these are far more deadly and dangerous than a firearm too lol

 

[7six2x39]

whats the amendment time looking like? 4 months? 6?

mIne was 2 days shy of 90 days.

 

[TimSwim]

Live Scan results can take anywhere from 3-10 business days depending on the level of service and the agency needed to do it.

 

[golfjitsu]

I'm still pending "Firearms" after a "Completed" status back on 4/30. All OC CCW training requirement uploaded 6/9.

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[golfjitsu]

Firearms portion was finally completed:
4/30/2025 - CA & FBI Completed
7/07/2025 - Firearms Completed
Went down the Reddit rabbit hole and other folks had the same "delay." Some were saying OC is just overwhelmed but not sure how that affects the livescans getting done quicker?

 

[c6363]

Hello, I submitted my application for OCSD initial application in June. I completed everything except the CCW 16 hour course. I did the live scan before the submission of the app. Should I just wait until I get the interview to do the CCW course? Thanks yall