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In-n-out shooting in Idaho

In case you missed the news, a shooter at In-N-Out blasted customers in Idaho last week. A couple fatalities and the shooter was shot by a civilian, I don't know if he had a CCW or not or if Idaho requires one..
(If someone has a better story- post it on up). Video here;

It restarts the conversation that we all need to have with ourselves and family. Would you, as a California CCW holder, intervene as this fellow did? We all have our "rules" about what we do & don't when carrying, not the least of which is "when" we would intervene running the range of Never to My own family/loved ones with steps in between. Sprinkle a dose of "every bullet you fire has a $50,000 attorney fee attached and its quickly conflicted. Chatting with friends, maybe we ought just run the guy over with our trucks 2 or 3 times, ya know- just to make sure- and avoid the Kalifonia scrutiny that certanly would follow a shooting.

Thoughts?
I was just going to say we were always told at work that if you look at settlement costs etc the average cost per errant round that doesn’t find its intended target is $1.1 million per bullet. Maybe that was just scare tactics.
 
Aljazeera, of all sources, is giving proper credit to the American hero who stepped up and saved lives.

A quote worth remembering:
“There’s a task that needs to be done, and we’re the ones who need to do it.”
~ Jordan Salinas

American mainstream media has dropped the ball by not acknowledging Jordan Salinas by name — even though they’re more than happy to glorify the worthless killer by name. Just more evidence that the positive effects of having good guys with guns around doesn’t fit their biased agenda.
 
Aljazeera, of all sources, is giving proper credit to this American hero.


A quote worth remembering:
“There’s a task that needs to be done, and we’re the ones who need to do it.”
~ Jordan Salinas

American mainstream media has dropped the ball by not acknowledging Jordan Salinas by name — even though they’re more than happy to glorify the worthless killer by name. Just more evidence that the positive effects of having good guys with guns around doesn’t fit their biased agenda.
i think i read the guy has a disabled family member and read about how the jerkoffs like to target soft targets so he trained to defend his family and others. american hero 🤠
 
Aljazeera, of all sources, is giving proper credit to the American hero who stepped up and saved lives.

A quote worth remembering:
“There’s a task that needs to be done, and we’re the ones who need to do it.”
~ Jordan Salinas

American mainstream media has dropped the ball by not acknowledging Jordan Salinas by name — even though they’re more than happy to glorify the worthless killer by name. Just more evidence that the positive effects of having good guys with guns around doesn’t fit their biased agenda.
CNN named him 2 days ago, what are you even talking about? https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/01/us/idaho-shooter-twin-falls
 
An armed society is a polite society. The armed citizen protected the people.

When a Black man stands up to protect others, he is a hero. Yet, he is still subjected to racial slurs like the n-word. In situations like this shooting, where a Black man acts heroically, he is more likely to face arrest—not because he did anything wrong, but because of his race and laws that target vigilante actions.

Why is it, in poorer countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan have a high number of gun per capita yet does not have mass shooting.



Even in countries with strict gun laws, they do not have mass shooting like Switzerland.

Just a few weeks ago, we saw a man with a gun saved a room full of people from a man with a knife. Let's us watch and see what happens next with both cases.

You think Pakistan has the reporting system and accountability first world does? This is the a red herring, they do not correlate. Just how the amish have a significant less rates if autism, its more likely that since they are not getting tested as often or reported as often as people who aren’t amish rather than them being unvaccinated.

In Pakistan if someone gets shot, most likely its settled culturally and locally, not through “federal or state“ equivalents cause again they have such a poor infrastructure and justice system.
 
You think Pakistan has the reporting system and accountability first world does? This is the a red herring, they do not correlate. Just how the amish have a significant less rates if autism, its more likely that since they are not getting tested as often or reported as often as people who aren’t amish rather than them being unvaccinated.

In Pakistan if someone gets shot, most likely it’s settled culturally and locally, not through “federal or state“ equivalents cause again they have such a poor infrastructure and justice system.
That happens everywhere. Good example in the USA is the hood or the boonies. No one’s calling the police there. It will be settled culturally.

Even still, the law can get involved and not prevent anything. Like the Hatfields and McCoys. Or crips and bloods, etc.

Ultimately people will human
 
Interesting how the story of what & who evolves with time. I get it- like that old saw, if 5 people watch something happen, no 2 stories will be alike. I don't find it malicious- just human nature and the way our brains are wired.
 
When I think of news media sources, I don’t think of CNN, MSNBC, or The View. Apparently you do.
You are being completely disingenuous, you were in fact talking about outlets like CNN when you made your first comment. It's weird because it sounded like you were disgruntled at the way that the US media were covering the event. But when you discovered that they did in fact cover it, you just try to talk 💩. If you cared about the thing in the first place you would be happy to discover that even CNN covered the defender in a positive light. This is literally good news even in the light of this horrible tragedy.
 
CCW permit or not people should be trained and carrying to engage and eliminate threats like the clown who decided to shoot up that In and Out. It doesn’t matter what state you are in. Someone shooting someone is simply someone shooting someone. All of these technicalities about state gun laws and local judicial systems is just smoke and mirrors they design to block you and think twice about doing what Mr. Salinas did. To come full circle is it right to do what Mr. Salina’s did? It all depends on how much you value human life.
 
You are being completely disingenuous, you were in fact talking about outlets like CNN when you made your first comment. It's weird because it sounded like you were disgruntled at the way that the US media were covering the event. But when you discovered that they did in fact cover it, you just try to talk 💩. If you cared about the thing in the first place you would be happy to discover that even CNN covered the defender in a positive light. This is literally good news even in the light of this horrible tragedy.
I didn’t even click on your CNN link, to be honest. You’re definitely not who I thought you were. What kind of rust do you sell, anyway?
 
Calguns members would have said the guy doesn't deserve to carry since he went looking for a shootout / trouble.

*You know who you are*

Especially the likes of fudd, good ol' boys, csa_cannoneer-types.
gotta love the "I carry a gun but I WOULD NEVER USE IT!!!!!" types lol
 
You are being completely disingenuous, you were in fact talking about outlets like CNN when you made your first comment. It's weird because it sounded like you were disgruntled at the way that the US media were covering the event. But when you discovered that they did in fact cover it, you just try to talk 💩. If you cared about the thing in the first place you would be happy to discover that even CNN covered the defender in a positive light. This is literally good news even in the light of this horrible tragedy.
Do you play rust
 
I played it a bit a long time ago but didn't get super into it. The user name was from ebay like 20 years ago, for some reason I thought it would be funny to be a guy that sells rusty things
I played like 13 years ago too, maybe more lol when it came out, it's way diff now. I just thought your name was because of the game
 
I played it a bit a long time ago but didn't get super into it. The user name was from ebay like 20 years ago, for some reason I thought it would be funny to be a guy that sells rusty things
weird, I figured you sold Kimber 1911's................
 
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