GETTING PULLED OVER

[velaz714]

No requirement to lock slide. Only to be unloaded. Trying to find specific PC for transporting firearms...

No requirement to lock slide. Only to be unloaded. Trying to find specific PC for transporting firearms...

Very true, no requirement! Not legally required. Just safe practices when transporting for myself

 

[velaz714]

Very true, no requirement! Not legally required. Just safe practices when transporting for myself

Ever since I got my CCW don’t gotta worry about that 🫪

 

[Hindsight]

Do whatever you can to show clear . As long as ammunition is stored separate from your firearm and your firearm is in a locked case, bag , or other forms of storage. You’ll be good. For my rifle I keep a gun lock going through the port and magazine slot. Can do same with a shotgun. This is not legal advice for information purposes only!!

Legally, ammo can't be loaded in the firearm or in the mag that's in the firearm, but you can have a load mag or ammo in the same container, just not inserted.

 

[Gawernator]

What if your slide doesn't lock to the rear? Or if your firearm doesn't have a slide?

slide back isn't a requirement lmao he made it up

 

[Hindsight]

Yes they can see you have a CCW permit.

I think the answer I saw last time around was that "it depends".

Question Legal  Post in thread 'Asking for someone else (no it’s not me). How bad can it get for them?'

May 27, 2026

Basically known as "duty to inform" and like you said depends on the IA's policies. Most I would assume do for officer safety reasons, but many officers either have access to your permit status associated when they run your plates or license if they're keyed into a system on their computer in the cruiser that has acess to the systems necessary or dispatch can notify them when they run the plates.

Your plates are not linked to your CCW, and running the plates of a rental or borrowed vehicle will give them nothing.

If they run your ID solely for DMV, it won’t flag CCW.

However...

• Dvrjon

 

[jayson_b24]

slide back isn't a requirement lmao he made it up

Oh, I know. I was just curious what the response would be.

 

[Gawernator]

I think the answer I saw last time around was that "it depends".

Question Legal  Post in thread 'Asking for someone else (no it’s not me). How bad can it get for them?'

May 27, 2026

Basically known as "duty to inform" and like you said depends on the IA's policies. Most I would assume do for officer safety reasons, but many officers either have access to your permit status associated when they run your plates or license if they're keyed into a system on their computer in the cruiser that has acess to the systems necessary or dispatch can notify them when they run the plates.

Your plates are not linked to your CCW, and running the plates of a rental or borrowed vehicle will give them nothing.

If they run your ID solely for DMV, it won’t flag CCW.

However...

• Dvrjon

That is correct. Yes with extra detail

 

[treelogger]

Did you ever file a complaint with the CHP?

Why? What we have here is clearly a badly trained and not knowledgeable CHP officer. Filing a complaint won't help that.

Example from the non gun world: As I drive to something, I come upon an accident on the rural commute highway, about 2 minutes from our house. Women in a nice older BMW (635) is injured, broken ankle, couldn't even get out of the car under her own power. Car is sideways on the road. We put up flares, block the road so nobody smashes into her car that's in the middle of the road. We help her get out of the car (had to mostly carry her, poor lady was in a lot of pain), put her in a place where she can sit in the shade, get her a water bottle, call 911 for (a) tow truck and (b) ambulance. First unit to show up on the scene is a CHP car, with a very young officer. Her husband shows up, and after consultation they decide to cancel the ambulance and he'll take her to the hospital (good move). After some checking we decide that the car is actually drivable, just badly beat up in front. The CHP guy then says that he can not possibly drive it, since it is a manual transmission and he doesn't know how to use a clutch. This is the ridiculous training issue: Here we have a CHP officer who DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO EVEN MOVE A STICK SHIFT! Sad. He also says that he won't let anyone else start the car and drive it to a nearby driveway. I'm sure he's right, there must be some rules about accident scenes. Fortunately, by this time my adult son has shown up, and several neighbors, and the person into whose driveway the car is going to go, so we all get together and push the car off the road and park it in the driveway, where it can stay for a few hours until the injured lady's husband is back from the hospital and can tow it home to repair it himself. So the tow truck also gets cancelled (nice).

Somewhere in the middle of this mess, a second CHP unit shows up. And when he heard that the young officer DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO EVEN MOVE A STICK SHIFT, he was very polite and just rolled his eyes. And later the young officer told us that now that the secret is out, his FTO (sergeant?) is going to chew his ass out really bad. He was so scared, it was actually funny. Poor kid.

 

[Gawernator]

Why? What we have here is clearly a badly trained and not knowledgeable CHP officer. Filing a complaint won't help that.

Example from the non gun world: As I drive to something, I come upon an accident on the rural commute highway, about 2 minutes from our house. Women in a nice older BMW (635) is injured, broken ankle, couldn't even get out of the car under her own power. Car is sideways on the road. We put up flares, block the road so nobody smashes into her car that's in the middle of the road. We help her get out of the car (had to mostly carry her, poor lady was in a lot of pain), put her in a place where she can sit in the shade, get her a water bottle, call 911 for (a) tow truck and (b) ambulance. First unit to show up on the scene is a CHP car, with a very young officer. Her husband shows up, and after consultation they decide to cancel the ambulance and he'll take her to the hospital (good move). After some checking we decide that the car is actually drivable, just badly beat up in front. The CHP guy then says that he can not possibly drive it, since it is a manual transmission and he doesn't know how to use a clutch. This is the ridiculous training issue: Here we have a CHP officer who DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO EVEN MOVE A STICK SHIFT! Sad. He also says that he won't let anyone else start the car and drive it to a nearby driveway. I'm sure he's right, there must be some rules about accident scenes. Fortunately, by this time my adult son has shown up, and several neighbors, and the person into whose driveway the car is going to go, so we all get together and push the car off the road and park it in the driveway, where it can stay for a few hours until the injured lady's husband is back from the hospital and can tow it home to repair it himself. So the tow truck also gets cancelled (nice).

Somewhere in the middle of this mess, a second CHP unit shows up. And when he heard that the young officer DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO EVEN MOVE A STICK SHIFT, he was very polite and just rolled his eyes. And later the young officer told us that now that the secret is out, his FTO (sergeant?) is going to chew his ass out really bad. He was so scared, it was actually funny. Poor kid.

I am a CHP certified motorcycle riding instructor, and it seems like maybe 0-5% of students know how to drive a manual or understand how it works these days. If anyone does it's usually a male 45+ these days. Just getting people to understand shifting gears as a basic concept can be grueling

 

[dvoncock]

JMO, but even if that was the case, if the officer already has reasons to extract you out of your vehicle to disarm you, I don't think explaining what happened in Florida will be any concern of theirs. In fact, I think it'll just aggravate them to probably use a more aggressive approach when disarming you because now, you're just being a smart @ss.


Did you ever file a complaint with the CHP?

I have a relative who is a retired bailiff with OC courthouse and he seemed like he's one of those. I once asked him why he never carry's off duty, he replied with, "I don't want too". He's the type of guy who goes to work, does his job and goes home and forgets why he does what he does. I've never asked him his stance on law abiding citizens with CCW but I can kinda have an idea where he stands.

Under binding US Supreme Court precedent, police do not need a reason to order motorists or passengers from a vehicle during a traffic stop; they can do so automatically at their discretion.

 

[dvoncock]

Yes they can see you have a CCW permit.

I believe that information shows in CLETS or a similar system that officers can access from the MDS in their vehicle. For that reason, I personally think it’s probably a good idea to disclose your CCW license during a traffic stop. Unfortunately, too many officers are likely to view non-disclosure—even if you’re not required to disclose by your IA—as sketchy if they found out independently. Once an officer thinks you’re hinkey, you’re in for the third degree treatment.

 

[Hindsight]

I believe that information shows in CLETS or a similar system that officers can access from the MDS in their vehicle. For that reason, I personally think it’s probably a good idea to disclose your CCW license during a traffic stop. Unfortunately, too many officers are likely to view non-disclosure—even if you’re not required to disclose by your IA—as sketchy if they found out independently. Once an officer thinks you’re hinkey, you’re in for the third degree treatment.

Question Legal  Post in thread 'Asking for someone else (no it’s not me). How bad can it get for them?'

May 27, 2026

Basically known as "duty to inform" and like you said depends on the IA's policies. Most I would assume do for officer safety reasons, but many officers either have access to your permit status associated when they run your plates or license if they're keyed into a system on their computer in the cruiser that has acess to the systems necessary or dispatch can notify them when they run the plates.

Your plates are not linked to your CCW, and running the plates of a rental or borrowed vehicle will give them nothing.

If they run your ID solely for DMV, it won’t flag CCW.

However...

• Dvrjon

 

[11thfinger]

I completely agree, it def was a jerk move. This all happened a while ago, I'm guessing over more than a decade when obtaining CCWs were tougher. Out of my small friend (8-9 of us) group, we used to hunt a lot and the topic of CCW came up quite often. When Sac county was starting to issue with only "self defense" he applied and was the first in our group to obtain his CCW. I reside in OC and at that time, they made the process more difficult than it was worth. Although, there was a short window when OC only required "self defense" as a good cause but they reverted back quickly. I came close to applying but didn't because of what my friend went through.

I wasn't there to witness what happened and I don't think he'd make the story up just for sh*ts-n-giggles. Now a days, with more agency issuing and possibly more run ins with permit holders, it probably doesn't happen as much (or at all).

Whether anyone wants to believe this or not, it's up to them. Make the best judgement and always follow directions from LEO when given and everything should be ok. Only reason I asked this question was because there was a video I saw few months ago where the individual was removed from his vehicle, the lady officer went to disarm him and sent a round down his leg.

This is my biggest fear if I were to be pulled over and disarmed.

 

[dvoncock]

This is my biggest fear if I were to be pulled over and disarmed.

In my opinion, it’s not mere FUD lore to be concerned about an ND if an officer removes and unloads your CCW for officer safety.

Because of my work, I’ve watched lots of bodycam where officers struggle to render firearms they are unfamiliar with safe.

In one, a group of officers—all millennials—were absolutely perplexed about how to unload a revolver; there was flagging galore! Fortunately, a boomer sergeant came along and showed them how before anything bad happened.

 

[RustVendor]

When I got pulled over in Stockton the officer didn't even want to see my CCW, he did look at my permit but that was it. I was actually on my way to Linden for a match so had more guns in the back, didn't mention those but he didn't ask either. Been more careful about putting the lock on my gun case since then though I often forget.

 

[dvoncock]

Question Legal  Post in thread 'Asking for someone else (no it’s not me). How bad can it get for them?'

May 27, 2026

Basically known as "duty to inform" and like you said depends on the IA's policies. Most I would assume do for officer safety reasons, but many officers either have access to your permit status associated when they run your plates or license if they're keyed into a system on their computer in the cruiser that has acess to the systems necessary or dispatch can notify them when they run the plates.

Your plates are not linked to your CCW, and running the plates of a rental or borrowed vehicle will give them nothing.

If they run your ID solely for DMV, it won’t flag CCW.

However...

• Dvrjon

In my experience, officers make three database inquiries during a traffic stop: vehicle registration, driver’s license status, and a wants/warrants check. The first two pull data from DMV, the third pulls from CLETS and will show CCW status. Sometimes officers do this themself from the computer in their car and other times they have a dispatcher run the checks. Whether an officer or dispatcher notices, understands the significance, or cares about CCW info depends. But that is why, in my opinion, it’s best practice to voluntarily disclose the existence of your CCW and avoid a potentially tense situation.

 

[SgtSafeBones]

Probably a couple of years ago.
CHP also didn't know about freedom week magazines. He kept asking about it, saying it was illegal, and why would anyone want more than 10 rounds.
The back up sheriff didn't comment on the mag when he was inspecting my firearm. When CHP mentioned it to sheriff, sheriff said freedom week was a real thing.

That’s crazy .

 

[Gawernator]

That’s crazy .

Not really. Cops are pretty bad about knowing the law lol. Two of my personal cop friends had no idea you could lawfully open carry with a BSIS exposed firearms permit until I told them recently

 

[9Cal_OC]

Not really. Cops are pretty bad about knowing the law lol. Two of my personal cop friends had no idea you could lawfully open carry with a BSIS exposed firearms permit until I told them recently

Isn’t this when actively working though? Not just out shopping or running errands.

 

[Gawernator]

Isn’t this when actively working though? Not just out shopping or running errands.

Yes that is correct. How would you know if a PI is working or shopping? lol. I've done both at the same time xD