CCW while on probation?

[goo-uh]

It feels like a stupid question but legally speaking I don’t see why I can’t…

I applied for an Alameda County CCW back in May and in August I was arrested then took a deal shortly after for a misdemeanor identity theft (PC530.5a). I was sentenced to a year of unsupervised probation with no firearm restrictions. After researching up to date California law I can’t find anything that says I am disqualified by being on Probation for my specific charge as it is not a drug/alcohol or violent/gun related crime… They recently reached out for fingerprints should I continue with my application and just be honest or withdrawal for my refund and wait out the year?

( THIS WAS MY FIRST AND ONLY ARREST )

If you think I should withdrawal if you can reference a specific code or law that’s up to date i’d really appreciate it!

I seen 26202 does mention being on any active court order but it’s referring to specific types of stay aways and restraining orders etc which don’t apply to my situation… Is there any one that has ever had a ccw while on any type of probation?

 

[Gawernator]

Will probably be up to your IA if they allow it or not... I could easily see you being declined because you have a fresh criminal charge. Only way to know for sure is apply

 

[goo-uh]

Will probably be up to your IA if they allow it or not... I could easily see you being declined because you have a fresh criminal charge. Only way to know for sure is apply

On what basis could I be declined though? Maybe I don’t understand the process correctly but I thought pretty much if i’m not disqualified they can’t decline me just because of the charge itself with the new laws and everything?

 

[Trapper]

California permits are difficult to get and easy to loose. I have friends who’ve lost them for speeding tickets. Ultimately, it’s up to Alameda County and based on all information provided in your application. Getting a conviction during the application process doesn’t help.

 

[Hit Factor]

Good moral character.

 

[ikeo1]

On what basis could I be declined though? Maybe I don’t understand the process correctly but I thought pretty much if i’m not disqualified they can’t decline me just because of the charge itself with the new laws and everything?

Not how it works.. They can disqualify you because you have a misdemeanor, simple as that.

 

[goo-uh]

Will probably be up to your IA if they allow it or not... I could easily see you being declined because you have a fresh criminal charge. Only way to know for sure is apply

On what basis could I be declined though? Maybe I don’t understand the process correctly but I thought pretty much if i’m not disqualified they can’t decline me just because of the charge itself with SB2

Good moral character.

Good cause and Good moral character isn’t considered anymore and replaced with an objective “disqualified person” as far as I know, that’s why I’m saying I don’t believe im a disqualified person therefore they shall issue…

 

[goo-uh]

Not how it works.. They can disqualify you because you have a misdemeanor, simple as that.

Can you show me where it says that please

 

[Hit Factor]

On what basis could I be declined though? Maybe I don’t understand the process correctly but I thought pretty much if i’m not disqualified they can’t decline me just because of the charge itself with SB2

Good cause and Good moral character isn’t considered anymore and replaced with an objective “disqualified person” as far as I know, that’s why I’m saying I don’t believe im a disqualified person therefore they shall issue…

 

[goo-uh]

Can you show me where it says that please

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Yes obviously if ive done violent things or drug charges, gun charges etc depending on the misdemeanor but fraud shouldn’t disqualify me and this doesn’t say or prove i’m disqualified but I appreciate you going out your way to help

 

[ikeo1]

Can you show me where it says that please

On what basis could I be declined though? Maybe I don’t understand the process correctly but I thought pretty much if i’m not disqualified they can’t decline me just because of the charge itself with SB2

Good cause and Good moral character isn’t considered anymore and replaced with an objective “disqualified person” as far as I know, that’s why I’m saying I don’t believe im a disqualified person therefore they shall issue…

You want us to prove to you thinking you're going to out argue it. Carrying a firearm concealed and applying for a permit after identity theft is the main issue. You don't need to believe me and I don't need to convince you. You asked for our opinions, you're gonna see a relatively consistent pattern in responses.

So Don't be disappointed if we're right and feel free to come back and tell us we're wrong, if we are. I'm sure we would all love to be wrong, but they don't need to explicitly say it before you do it in the review. Again, not how it works during an eval/interview at the issuing office.

The fact that it was recent is a strike..

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

You want us to prove to you thinking you're going to out argue it. Carrying a firearm concealed and applying for a permit after identity theft is the main issue. You don't need to believe me and I don't need to convince you. You asked for our opinions, you're gonna see a relatively consistent pattern in responses.

So Don't be disappointed if we're right and feel free to come back and tell us we're wrong, if we are. I'm sure we would all love to be wrong, but they don't need to explicitly say it before you do it in the review. Again, not how it works during an eval/interview at the issuing office.

The fact that it was recent is a strike..

 

[goo-uh]

You want us to prove to you thinking you're going to out argue it. Carrying a firearm concealed and applying for a permit after identity theft is the main issue. You don't need to believe me and I don't need to convince you. You asked for our opinions, you're gonna see a relatively consistent pattern in responses.

So Don't be disappointed if we're right and feel free to come back and tell us we're wrong, if we are. I'm sure we would all love to be wrong, but they don't need to explicitly say it before you do it in the review. Again, not how it works during an eval/interview at the issuing office.

The fact that it was recent is a strike..

Please don’t take it like i’m being defensive or saying you are all wrong i’m just trying to understand and feel sure so that I know I’m not waiting a year for no reason yk…

 

[goo-uh]

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i totally would understand if it’s a no i’m just trying to understand what they would say the reason for it being no is and if that “No” is legal. Can anyone here actually break it down legally and by the code or is it just “your a bad guy it’s not gonna happen “

 

[Darqhelmet]

multiple people have told you something you don’t like.

 

[goo-uh]

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i would totally get it if i’m wrong and disqualified i just want someone to break it down so it makes sense legally and not just taking your word for it yk

 

[goo-uh]

multiple people have told you something you don’t like.

it’s not that i don’t like it, they just haven’t showed me something that says in writing im disqualified or what basis they will decline me on

 

[Darqhelmet]

it’s not that i don’t like it, they just haven’t showed me something that says in writing im disqualified or what basis they will decline me on

you know what. you’re saving all of us a ton of time right out of the gate. Thank you, saves everyone time later when you ask you next dumb question that is answered in a way you don’t like.

 

[Hit Factor]

Yes obviously if ive done violent things or drug charges, gun charges etc depending on the misdemeanor but fraud shouldn’t disqualify me and this doesn’t say or prove i’m disqualified but I appreciate you going out your way to help

“Disqualifying” is a fairly subjective term, but I think you’d have a stronger argument if your crime was of the “malum prohibitum” variety. Unfortunately, the crime you were convicted of was “malum in se,” with an actual victim involved. It’s tough to convince an issuing authority that victimizing someone like that isn’t disqualifying just because it doesn’t involve violence, etc. I’m not judging here; I’m just telling you the way I think it is. Good luck to you.