Who has X-treme bullets 9mm 115GR RN loading data?

[Hit Factor]

I just loaded 20 rounds of xtreme bullets following the measurements mentioned in this graphic above.

I started messing with the bullet seating depth and have one that measures as low as 1.130 and as high as 1.142

The majority between 1.138-1.141

I used tite group 4.0gr (may be a few 3.9 or 4.1) but the powder was very consistent at 4.0. —(4.0 is 95% of 4.2gr)

Do you guys think I should be ok with these measurements so I can head out to the range and see if my gun likes them??


They pass the plunk test on gauge and barrel on my M&P, everything seems great.

Yep, you’re ready. You could load some with lower charge weights and some with higher charges so you can compare the feel and performance, but as long as you’re not chasing a particular power factor, it sounds like you have a good load there. Despite the slight variances in specs you’re getting at 4.0 grains with a 1.140” OAL, they will all probably feel pretty much the same to you as you shoot them, and when you finish shooting those 20 rounds, you’ll wish you had loaded a few hundred more.

 

[blackhawk556]

honestly just trust the reloading manual as far as OAL and charge and then measure velocity as a proxy for pressure. That's why advice is always to start low on the charge weight scale and work up if you want more velocity. I think the advice here has all been good but if you go to like Sniper's Hide and look at their reloading advice you can blow yourself up lol. They basically always start at the max book load and then keep increasing until they start seeing lifter marks on their brass. That's NOT safe, trust the manuals and just stay on the low end of charges and you will be solid. OAL can actually have a big effect, I loaded a bunch of HS6 to 1.1 vs the 1.45 it said in the manual and they had a lot more recoil, I didn't have my chrono that day but luckily I was loading relatively low charge weight, if I was at the top of the scale it could have been overpressure. If you need more velocity or power you need a different cartridge, not just maxing out 9mm

Thanks for the info. I don’t want to be any where near the max. This ammo is pretty much range/plinking rounds and doesn’t need high power factor. I’m trying to stay in the middle of what ever manuals state.

I tried joining sniper hide last year when I was looking for a scope for my cz 457 MTR but was denied access. I guess it was suspicious I was visiting the classified section too much.

Reached out and told them I was on Calguns with same username for 16 years but they didn’t reply back. Oh well.

 

[blackhawk556]

honestly just trust the reloading manual as far as OAL and charge and then measure velocity as a proxy for pressure. That's why advice is always to start low on the charge weight scale and work up if you want more velocity. I think the advice here has all been good but if you go to like Sniper's Hide and look at their reloading advice you can blow yourself up lol. They basically always start at the max book load and then keep increasing until they start seeing lifter marks on their brass. That's NOT safe, trust the manuals and just stay on the low end of charges and you will be solid. OAL can actually have a big effect, I loaded a bunch of HS6 to 1.1 vs the 1.45 it said in the manual and they had a lot more recoil, I didn't have my chrono that day but luckily I was loading relatively low charge weight, if I was at the top of the scale it could have been overpressure. If you need more velocity or power you need a different cartridge, not just maxing out 9mm

Sounds like my next purchase should be a chrono.

I was going to buy more primers and bullets but I already have several thousand stashed away. May be I should use the funds for a chronograph instead.

 

[blackhawk556]

Yep, you’re ready. You could load some with lower charge weights and some with higher charges so you can compare the feel and performance, but as long as you’re not chasing a particular power factor, it sounds like you have a good load there. Despite the slight variances in specs you’re getting at 4.0 grains with a 1.140” OAL, they will all probably feel pretty much the same to you as you shoot them, and when you finish shooting those 20 rounds, you’ll wish you had loaded a few hundred more.

You got me thinking, may be I should load some to 3.8 and leave them at 1.14OAL to see the difference in recoil. At 1.14 I shouldn’t have to worry about over pressure anyways only reliability at this point.

 

[Hit Factor]

You got me thinking, may be I should load some to 3.8 and leave them at 1.14OAL to see the difference in recoil. At 1.14 I shouldn’t have to worry about over pressure anyways only reliability at this point.

I think it would be a good idea, especially from a learning standpoint. You’ll get a chance to feel first hand what different charge weights do. Just make sure you keep the different loads separate and well marked. If you mix them up at the range you’ll become very frustrated trying to remember and keep track of which was which. I think you’re going to prefer the 4.0 charge. Or at least I think I would. But that’s part of the beauty of reloading. You get to dial in your own loads for you and you alone. Have fun, and let us know how it goes!

 

[Deleted member 16735]

Sounds like my next purchase should be a chrono.

I was going to buy more primers and bullets but I already have several thousand stashed away. May be I should use the funds for a chronograph instead.

Yeah you don't 100% need one if you just try to be conservative with your loads but it gives you important information, like if you are shooting hollow points are you actually hitting velocity so that they open up? And also it's really the only way to measure pressure at home and high pressure can also be from the gun instead of the load of it has a ton of carbon build up or something

 

[blackhawk556]

I tested the 20 rounds today. I shot them using using my 10+ years old XDm. I figured if the gun blows up this is one that is going blow and not my others lol

The gun shot very well in terms of recoil. I don’t know if it was the gun or the ammo.

I shot 6.0 gr of HS-6 115 grain FMJ with my echelon and M2.0 m&p and they had more recoil than the tite group 4.0 gr with xtreme Bullets.

Now I do wish I had more rounds so I could have tested these rounds more.

To recap
Tite group 4.0 grains
1.140” OAL
115 grain Xtreme bullets are good to go

Yep, you’re ready. You could load some with lower charge weights and some with higher charges so you can compare the feel and performance, but as long as you’re not chasing a particular power factor, it sounds like you have a good load there. Despite the slight variances in specs you’re getting at 4.0 grains with a 1.140” OAL, they will all probably feel pretty much the same to you as you shoot them, and when you finish shooting those 20 rounds, you’ll wish you had loaded a few hundred more.

I think it would be a good idea, especially from a learning standpoint. You’ll get a chance to feel first hand what different charge weights do. Just make sure you keep the different loads separate and well marked. If you mix them up at the range you’ll become very frustrated trying to remember and keep track of which was which. I think you’re going to prefer the 4.0 charge. Or at least I think I would. But that’s part of the beauty of reloading. You get to dial in your own loads for you and you alone. Have fun, and let us know how it goes!

 

[blackhawk556]

Wow reloading and look what I found!!

This is not from today’s shoot. It’s clean brass I had ready to load. Good thing I’m going slow

 

[Hit Factor]

Wow reloading and look what I found!!

This is not from today’s shoot. It’s clean brass I had ready to load. Good thing I’m going slow

If you had loaded a round with that, it would not have made it through the case gauge. If you didn’t case gauge all your completed rounds, it wouldn’t have fed properly into your chamber. You don’t need to slow down for cases like that, but you do need to keep your eyes open and pay attention to what you’re doing. If you’re not already using one, I recommend you case gauge all your completed rounds with something like this: https://www.armanov.com/shop/ammo-c...7TjHs1Z7zCJ_4wrk_A_W89OtIRRg89XtQvxgq5#attr=4

 

[blackhawk556]

If you had loaded a round with that, it would not have made it through the case gauge. If you didn’t case gauge all your completed rounds, it wouldn’t have fed properly into your chamber. You don’t need to slow down for cases like that, but you do need to keep your eyes open and pay attention to what you’re doing. If you’re not already using one, I recommend you case gauge all your completed rounds with something like this: https://www.armanov.com/shop/ammo-c...7TjHs1Z7zCJ_4wrk_A_W89OtIRRg89XtQvxgq5#attr=4
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I do have a case gauge but it’s one round at a time.
I stopped reloading and inspected all 150 rounds I loaded for defects. Ended up finding one primer not seated well. Other that, no damaged cases.

 

[Unit616]

X-treme Bullets has some load data in their Reloading Guide:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0887/1061/1314/files/RELOADING_MANUAL2023_95c33859-7b39-48da-997d-da8679663e3d.pdf?v=1749333299

9mm load data begins on page 19. They don’t list a lot of powders, but you can use it as a starting point and compare their data to other manuals you have for the same powers. It would at least give you an idea of how to adjust data you have for other powders that are not listed in the X-treme Bullet guide.

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But otherwise, data for lead bullets should generally get you close to what you need for plated bullets.

I use 4.2 Grains Titegroup for excellent accuracy.

 

[blackhawk556]

I use 4.2 Grains Titegroup for excellent accuracy.

What bullets, OAL and other details do you use with tite group?

 

[Unit616]

So I use the Hodgdonreloading.com Guide

115 Grain
COAL-1.10"
Titegroup 4.2 Grains
Min-3.9- 1075FPS
Max-4.3- 1150 FPS

 

[Unit616]

Extreme Bullets
Berry's
Winchester
Zero

All work great...

 

[Unit616]

Extreme Bullets are still pound for Pound the best buy, and they ship super fast.

If you don't mind spending extra, Hornady has been ramping up FMJ Bullets too...

 

[blackhawk556]

Extreme Bullets are still pound for Pound the best buy, and they ship super fast.

If you don't mind spending extra, Hornady has been ramping up FMJ Bullets too...

Where do you get Xtreme bullets from? I see some places sell them cheaper than others

What I like about delta precision is that they sell 1k of 115gr FMJ for $105 shipped! And I can easily find reloading data for these types of bullets.

Plated bullets seem to be more needy?

 

[Unit616]

google them-

Buy from Xtremebullets.com

 

[blackhawk556]

google them-

Buy from Xtremebullets.com

Oh ok. I thought you were buying from another seller

 

[Unit616]

No

 

[Unit616]

ammoseek.com

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