Springfield Echelon added to the roster

[AaronV54]

I have an off roster 4.0 and I love it! it's comfortable in my hands and shoots very well. I'd definitely recommend this gun to anyone

 

[advan031]

Anybody removed the mag disconnect? I'm wondering if it's going to effect fitment with aftermarket grips.

 

[cobian1984]

Anybody removed the mag disconnect? I'm wondering if it's going to effect fitment with aftermarket grips.

Seeing some FFLs showing that they have a bunch of the CA Echelons available to DROS now, so I'm sure we'll start to see the videos in the next few weeks after folks start bailing them out of jail and start reverse engineering it.

 

[rfgCA]

(SoCal) RIFLE GEAR -- I just got the email today and confirmed on the website, the Echelons are in stock ($599).

Up until yesterday Walther PDP's were in stock as well ($649) although I just checked again today, and they have sold out.

 

[NationMostWanted]

(SoCal) RIFLE GEAR -- I just got the email today and confirmed on the website, the Echelons are in stock ($599).

Up until yesterday Walther PDP's were in stock as well ($649) although I just checked again today, and they have sold out.

Compact or regular echelon? Is gear up always available through SA or its promotional?

 

[cobian1984]

Compact or regular echelon? Is gear up always available through SA or its promotional?

Regular, 4.5”. Compact not expected for another couple months. Nothing about gear up packages yet in CA, but looking around what’s in other states, seems like the gear up is always available.

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

thank god. all the resellers here kicking their feet right now

I remember off roster they were about $1200-$1500 when they first released; maybe $1000 at lowest if seller was having a hard time. How much are you guys seeing retailers sell for now for the California model?

 

[pancakes]

This is one of those guns you should test before buying. Barrel over bore is so high most people arnt ready for that kinda recoil.

 

[advan031]

This is one of those guns you should test before buying. Barrel over bore is so high most people arnt ready for that kinda recoil.

I'm not sure what pistol you're looking at but the Echelon definitely don't have a high height over bore. It's similar to glock.

With that said I've shot a 4.5 Echelon and it shoots very soft with nice recoil impulse.

 

[tomrkba]

I cant decide if I want the 4.0 or the hellcat osp :/

I normally carry my shield and dislike carrying my xd9 or glock 19. But I really like how the echelon looks

I hear mixed things about the Hellcat. If you go that route, I highly recommend you really test the gun. Get a good number of rounds through it. If you end up liking it, and it seems reliable, get a second one. Proof it, keep the round count low, and then carry it.

 

[NationMostWanted]

I hear mixed things about the Hellcat. If you go that route, I highly recommend you really test the gun. Get a good number of rounds through it. If you end up liking it, and it seems reliable, get a second one. Proof it, keep the round count low, and then carry it.

Why its not good? I thought alot of people like the hellcat

 

[vplaza96]

Why its not good? I thought alot of people like the hellcat

I can only speak from my short experience renting the Hellcat Pro....I thought the trigger wasn't as good as the triggers on my XD9, XDM Elite, and definitely not as good as the trigger on my M&P 2.0 10mm.

Plus, during the same visit, I rented a PDP and a Canik and the triggers on those were much better as well.

It seemed more difficult to get right groups with it than the other rentals I tried that day.

Again, just my short experience with it.

 

[NationMostWanted]

Regular, 4.5”. Compact not expected for another couple months. Nothing about gear up packages yet in CA, but looking around what’s in other states, seems like the gear up is always available.

Aww couple months

 

[outersnoo]

Anybody removed the mag disconnect? I'm wondering if it's going to effect fitment with aftermarket grips.

I just DROS'd one and will post what I find out. I'm also very interested in removing this, primarily for shooting USPSA which requires putting the "hammer down" at the end of your stage .

 

[4D5Auto]

It’s not “you guys” that I hate, it’s the California Department of justice. There is a “gray area “ when it comes to selling off guns.

I paid roughly $699 for mine. After DROS, taxes and transfer fees, expect to be somewhere in the $850-$900 range. You might get lucky and find it on sale somewhere. But I wouldn’t expect that to be anytime soon.

Still cheaper than going to Disneyland!!

 

[4D5Auto]

Still cheaper than going to Disneyland!!

Oh, what’s this “gray” area supposed to be? I’ve been gone for some time and this site has completely changed..

 

[Ron Swanson]

Oh, what’s this “gray” area supposed to be? I’ve been gone for some time and this site has completely changed..

I have had a shop say that there can be a certain level of scrutiny depending on the department that a LEO has to deal with, especially if there are multiple sales and profit being made. This was mentioned because of the price i happened to get an off roster for.
Another shop asked me if I was LEO when selling an off roster gun to someone....never been asked that before. Not sure why they needed to know.

Could be gun shop FUD could be true....doesn't seem too far out of reach of reality though.

 

[NationMostWanted]

I have had a shop say that there can be a certain level of scrutiny depending on the department that a LEO has to deal with, especially if there are multiple sales and profit being made. This was mentioned because of the price i happened to get an off roster for.
Another shop asked me if I was LEO when selling an off roster gun to someone....never been asked that before. Not sure why they needed to know.

Could be gun shop FUD could be true....doesn't seem too far out of reach of reality though.

When Leo sell off roster, are we allowed to keep the normal mags that it comes with or we have to get 10 rd mags only

 

[Route66ShootingSportsPark]

When Leo sell off roster, are we allowed to keep the normal mags that it comes with or we have to get 10 rd mags only

You cannot receive or buy magazines with more than 10 rounds.

 

[NationMostWanted]

I can only speak from my short experience renting the Hellcat Pro....I thought the trigger wasn't as good as the triggers on my XD9, XDM Elite, and definitely not as good as the trigger on my M&P 2.0 10mm.

Plus, during the same visit, I rented a PDP and a Canik and the triggers on those were much better as well.

It seemed more difficult to get right groups with it than the other rentals I tried that day.

Again, just my short experience with it.

I do notice alot of people selling off their hellcat pros tho