New Sac county CCW

[little tim]

dude both those revolvers are bigger than a p365 and they both suck to shoot and have half the capacity.

I'm not recoil sensitive, don't have any hand injuries or ailments (like arthritis), plus I dry fire and shoot at least a few times a year, so I don't agree that the revolvers suck to shoot.

As I mentioned, the rounded design and dimensions of the revolver are easier to conceal for pocket carry, and their potential light weight and weight distribution makes other traditional areas easy to conceal.

Unlike semi autos, the rounds are stored right behind the barrel, there is no keeling/tipping issue that shorter barrels have with the magazine weight in the grips.

I also mentioned the smaller ammo capacity. However, not every scenario requires 10+1 rounds, especially since most people will never need to shoot defensively. This is where subjectivity comes in.

Some people don't carry micro guns like the 365 because it's size and weight make it harder to shoot (compared to full size of compact). Some people always carry a tourniquet, packing gauze, trauma shears, and 2 spare magazines.

And some people use a stand off device, or prefer revolvers for scenarios they think it's likely their semi auto would go out of battery to close contact scenarios.

And some people always carry a revolver as a backup gun. I forgot the SW 340 PD (11 ounces) being a popular option for backup or primary carry.

 

[Qhoff]

Just applied for a Sacramento county CCW

Appointment for the 20th of October. I don't see any reason for denial. Live a boring life as far as law enforcement is concerned

Put a Sig P365 (still in jail) and S&W shield on the application form. Probably going to try pocket carry first. I'm a relatively thin build and have a tucked in polo shirt for work. Doing maintenance work I am constantly bending over, reaching up, etc and otherwise doing things that will make any position on the waist hard to do without major printing or flashing. But I do have cargo pants for work so I think I'll try the pocket first

Currently looking at Loyal Arms in Folsom as they are the closest to me and talking with them, they seem like a good bunch. Shooting portion of the class is supposed to be done at the Sac gun range in Rancho Cordova.

Any pointers or experience with those who have gone through the process recently? Any paperwork I should bring to the interview?

Practice before you go at 5 and 7 yards

 

[Qhoff]

Now I just need a holster for it that is compatible with a red dot and the Foxtrot365XR light

I would like to try something similar to the Vedder Rapid Tuck. Unfortunately they don't make one compatible with this light. Search's seem to indicate that not many places even make a holster compatible. And the few that do look like they would be so uncomfortable with my slim build.

For the time being I'll probably try out a universal pocket holster that can at least be used without printing and is not going to be an issue with tucked in shirts as I have at work

The other possibility is just making one. I have a vacuum press. Just need to find some suitable thickness kydex sheets, etc. my experience is the 0.080 stuff I have doesn't do so well with firearms as it doesn't mold down the sides and other larger angles when only doing one side with the back being flat. Great for knifes and thinner stuff. Might try some 0.060 as that is easily found. Can't seem to find any 0.040 on Amazon. Hmmm....

Change light to hlx 7 sub. Safariland IWB cant go wrong.

 

[Hamburger Monster]

Practice before you go at 5 and 7 yards

Already went and got 100% in the A zone

 

[Hamburger Monster]

Change light to hlx 7 sub. Safariland IWB cant go wrong.

Not too interested in a larger light that will only make it harder to conceal

 

[kdub1290]

Are you trying to pocket carry a P365 with a light and RDS attached? I guess if you’re wearing cargo pants you can fit that in the cargo pocket, but that’s going to be heavy and probably flop against your thigh all day (depending on how loose the pants are). Drawing from a cargo pocket is going to be much slower and less natural than drawing from a front hip pocket. Something to consider.

I saw some folks recommend holsters that have a leather backer (Crossbreed style holsters). Just an FYI that some people have experienced accidental discharges as they were holstering their firearms with that style holster due to the leather losing its shape and bending into the trigger guard causing the trigger to be pressed as the gun was placed downwards into the holster.

Tenicor is not a “simple” taco style holster. Yea, they have a fold over design, but those holsters are full of features that long time concealed carriers have come to appreciate. They are well thought out, but aren’t pocket holsters, so I don’t know why people are recommending them.

It sounds like your weapon mounted light is making finding a holster difficult for you. One thing you may wish to consider is simply not having a light on the gun. That will open you up to far more holster options. The fact of the matter is that using a WML outside your home in a defensive encounter is a vanishingly low probability event. Opening your holster compatibility options to better holsters would increase your likelihood of success in an encounter in all likely scenarios far more than any WML will.

Lastly, it sounds like you’re a proficient shooter when focusing on accuracy. That’s awesome since it is a foundational skill. Sounds like it’s time for you to begin training other skills like some of those mentioned by other commenters (increasing speed, incorporating draws, etc). The MOST important thing to learn, IMO, is the legal principles of lawful self defense. The CCW training course gives you a speed run of these principles and is not, in my opinion, sufficient to impart a deep understanding of such a complex subject. I recommend anyone who is going to concealed carry to read at least one book about the subject. I couple good options are Andrew Branca’s “The Law of Self Defense Principles” and Massad Ayoob’s “Deadly Force - Understanding Your Right to Self Defense.” Highlight the important parts as you read through it the first time and then make a habit of re-reading your highlights at a set interval, like yearly or whenever you re-qualify. The knowledge is perishable, so it’s important to refresh yourself. Learning to shoot fast and accurately is of no help to us if it lands us in prison. Knowing that hen lethal force is appropriate is of tantamount importance.

Stay safe out there!

 

[Hamburger Monster]

Are you trying to pocket carry a P365 with a light and RDS attached? I guess if you’re wearing cargo pants you can fit that in the cargo pocket, but that’s going to be heavy and probably flop against your thigh all day (depending on how loose the pants are). Drawing from a cargo pocket is going to be much slower and less natural than drawing from a front hip pocket. Something to consider.

I saw some folks recommend holsters that have a leather backer (Crossbreed style holsters). Just an FYI that some people have experienced accidental discharges as they were holstering their firearms with that style holster due to the leather losing its shape and bending into the trigger guard causing the trigger to be pressed as the gun was placed downwards into the holster.

Tenicor is not a “simple” taco style holster. Yea, they have a fold over design, but those holsters are full of features that long time concealed carriers have come to appreciate. They are well thought out, but aren’t pocket holsters, so I don’t know why people are recommending them.

It sounds like your weapon mounted light is making finding a holster difficult for you. One thing you may wish to consider is simply not having a light on the gun. That will open you up to far more holster options. The fact of the matter is that using a WML outside your home in a defensive encounter is a vanishingly low probability event. Opening your holster compatibility options to better holsters would increase your likelihood of success in an encounter in all likely scenarios far more than any WML will.

Lastly, it sounds like you’re a proficient shooter when focusing on accuracy. That’s awesome since it is a foundational skill. Sounds like it’s time for you to begin training other skills like some of those mentioned by other commenters (increasing speed, incorporating draws, etc). The MOST important thing to learn, IMO, is the legal principles of lawful self defense. The CCW training course gives you a speed run of these principles and is not, in my opinion, sufficient to impart a deep understanding of such a complex subject. I recommend anyone who is going to concealed carry to read at least one book about the subject. I couple good options are Andrew Branca’s “The Law of Self Defense Principles” and Massad Ayoob’s “Deadly Force - Understanding Your Right to Self Defense.” Highlight the important parts as you read through it the first time and then make a habit of re-reading your highlights at a set interval, like yearly or whenever you re-qualify. The knowledge is perishable, so it’s important to refresh yourself. Learning to shoot fast and accurately is of no help to us if it lands us in prison. Knowing that hen lethal force is appropriate is of tantamount importance.

Stay safe out there!

Excellent points. Definitely things to consider

The holster I made has a leather backing. But I also made a kidex mid plate to go between the leather and the pistol so the leather has no chance of getting in the way. I'm also practicing drawing and holstering with the safety on so if my shirt gets in the way or snags the trigger, hopefully the safety saves the day. Right now it's all dry with no live ammo. So far it seems 5:00 is where the holster sits best and is most comfortable. I can sit without needing to remove it or it pressing into me too much.

Pocket carry was my first thought to fet around my tucked in shirt uniform for work. I use cargo pants for work so I was thinking of those pockets. Leg slap is definitely a concern as well as an awkward and slow draw if it was ever necessary. I think a completely different holster will be needed to make this more viable. Definitely something I need to look into more and explore different options

Removing the might be on the table if it proves more hassle then it's worth. You are correct that the chance it's needed outside the home is slim. And there are a ton of options for naked P365s. Might just go this route. Does two things, makes for a smaller package, plus opens up more holster options. Definitely something to ponder

"Proficient" might be generous. I can hit cans and paper targets when they aren't shooting back . But my speed and follow up shots definitely need improvement. At 5-7 yards, I can put most rounds in a 5" circle pretty quick without too much difficulty. Initial sight acquisition is slow and in need of much more practice

I've been looking at different classes. Doesn't look like there are a lot of good options local. The closest one that interests me is about a 1.5 hour drive away. T3Pros looks to have a decent number of classes from beginners to advanced. https://www.t3pros.com/classes. I think this is where I'll want to start unless I find something closer that is comparable

I'm going to carry "cheat sheet" cards in my wallet for now with all the important legal stuff for CCW. Like a list of the "sensitive" places. The 5 rules of self defense, etc. at least something to reference when I need or get bored

 

[kdub1290]

Sounds like you’ve got a good plan. Best of luck to you on having the rest of the application process go smoothly!

 

[Hamburger Monster]

Interview complete and live scan done. Uploaded documents for training, etc

Now I wait.....

 

[timthetwin]

Check out the philster enigma. I wear that when I need to carry with a tucked in shirt.

 

[Hamburger Monster]

Check out the philster enigma. I wear that when I need to carry with a tucked in shirt.

The enigma is on my radar for posable solutions. Just too many bad reviews or complaints about quality control or sub par hardware being used. Keeps be hesitant

 

[Hamburger Monster]

Also just got an email stating the CCW application has been approved. And another email stating the license is ready to be picked up

Much quicker then I expected. Live scan was on Friday and approval and license ready on Monday

 

[Hamburger Monster]

Picked up the CCW license today