Michigan task force recommends assault weapon ban, raising gun purchase age (It's not just California)

[GoldensRule]

Michigan task force recommends assault weapon ban, raising gun purchase age

Michigan task force recommends assault weapon ban, raising gun purchase age

The recommendations come ahead of the four-year anniversary of Oxford High School shooting that killed four students and injured seven.

www.mlive.com

Here’s a look at the recommendations, which were developed over the past year with input from a wide range of advocates.

• Requiring waiting periods for all firearm purchases. The task force does not give a recommended amount of time but Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) officials say this “cooling-off period” can prevent impulsive acts of gun violence and gives more time for background checks.
• Increasing the age of firearm purchase to 21. Residents 18 and older can currently purchase a handgun from a private seller and long guns from a private seller or licensed dealer. However, customers must be 21 or older to purchase a handgun from a licensed dealer.
• Close the concealed pistol license loophole. Currently, residents can purchase a firearm without a background check or permit through a CPL loophole, MDHHS officials say.
• Banning ghost guns. Ghost guns are untraceable firearms that don’t have serial numbers.
• Prohibit the possession of large capacity magazines. The task force did not define large capacity magazines. A defunct federal ban previously defined large capacity magazines as ones that could hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, but some states have put the limit at more than 15 or 20 rounds.
• Prohibit the sale, possession, manufacture or transfer of assault weapons. The task force did not define what constitutes an assault weapon. Usually these bans target semiautomatic rifles that have features like a pistol grip, barrel shroud, or a grip for the nontrigger hand, and can accept a detachable magazine.
• Ban automatic conversion devices. These are devices that convert semiautomatic firearms into fully automatic guns and are generally already illegal under state and federal law. However, one attachment called a bump stock remains legal and allows semiautomatic rifles to fire at a rate similar to machine guns.
• Prohibit carrying guns in government buildings.
• Strengthen existing school safety legislation.
• Standardize training for school resource officers and promote a single school safety tip line statewide.
• Support community violence intervention efforts.
• Educate the public on secure firearm storage and expand access to free gun locking devices. Michigan’s safe-storage law went into effect in February 2024. It requires guns be kept in an enclosed, locked container that minors do not have a key or combination to open.
• Create clear guidelines for firearm relinquishment. This would create a process for individuals prohibited from owning firearms to turn those guns in to law enforcement agencies.
• Remove barriers for filing Extreme Risk Protection Orders and Personal Protection Orders and improve enforcement of orders.
• Strengthen victim support services to address the harm of domestic violence.

 

[bbp00]

1)
US Constitution: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

2)
Michigan Constitution: Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.

3)
Republican majority in Michigan House of Representatives

4)
SCOTUS will eventually rule on AW and standard capacity magazines bans in our favor.

 

[Ro-bo]

Re: "It's not just California"

Even states which have reputations as being safe havens for the 2A, like Texas, have fended off things like AWBs in their respective state legislatures. Same goes for lot's of "free states" which eventually capitulated to anti-2A forces, much to the chagrin of the free-staters I know who moved to many of them to avoid "tryanny" here at home. It's patently naive to think that public perception is static, and lawmaking all comes down to deference to public opinion for the most part.

 

[Ro-bo]

1)
US Constitution: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

2)
Michigan Constitution: Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.

3)
Republican majority in Michigan House of Representatives

4)
SCOTUS will eventually rule on AW and standard capacity magazines bans in our favor.

Not to be overly critical, but...

Number 3 is outright dangerous thinking. Lot's of bad 2A decision-making has been bipartisan or just outright supported by the party that gets undeserved recognition as defenders of all things righteous, including guns. There are too many real world examples working against that school of thought, for it to be comforting that Republicans hold a majority of votes in any particular lawmaking setting.

Number 4 is wishful thinking. Even if that's an eventuality (which is dubious at this moment), the states who are most resistant to the idea (like California) are not going to take any such mandates lying down. Just as we don't stop fighting for the 2A, the other side isn't about to go out of business anytime soon either.

 

[Jimi Jah]

Already done here years ago. Copycats.

They forgot to recommend a 11% tax and background checks to buy some bullets.

Those liberals proposing that stuff are slacking.

 

[couragewolf]

Meanwhile the discussion in texas forums is more like:

 

[Deleted member 31158]

Meanwhile the discussion in texas forums is more like:

God bless Texas. Gotta love em. I just hope they don’t let the moronic California transplants change things.

 

[Drowned Rat]

4)
SCOTUS will eventually rule on AW and standard capacity magazines bans in our favor.

And when will that be?

Bc so far they’ve ducked every opportunity and have let appeals courts walk all over the constitution.

Republicans, like dems, only really understand guns as a sacrificial wedge issue. No one is out here defending our rights.

Not to be all doom and gloom, but I think it’s time for us to mentally prep for some very hard “compromises”. Bc so far, the anti-2A crowd has been dominating the long game.

The only hope is if both parties can lock in and drop this ancient approach to 2A legislation. But that requires new blood for basically every seat at every level, including the Supreme Court— I don’t see that happening unfortunately, tho I am *begging* to be proven wrong at this point.

 

[bbp00]

And when will that be?

Well, they're going to hear Wolford v. Lopez, which is a start. As for magazines, there's a circuit split whether magazines are arms or not, so they'll hear one of those, most likely Duncan v. Bonta. If they rule that magazines are arms, that would be the end of limiting standard capacity mags because they're in common use.

AW ban cases will follow, because they can't kick the can down the road forever (they denied to hear quite a few). Eventually they'll have to clarify how lower courts shall apply Bruen.

Legal analysts widely anticipate that the Supreme Court will eventually take up a case directly addressing the constitutionality of these types of bans, as lower courts remain divided on how to apply the standard set in the 2022 NYSRPA v. Bruen decision.

I do agree though, that 2A unfriendly states and courts will find creative ways to trample on our rights. That said, I'm cautiously optimistic that SCOTUS will hear some of the 2A cases and rule in a way that is less ambiguous.