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Lets start some fist fights. Comp vs non Comp for carry what do you carry ? Why do you prefer one to the other ?

Comp Vs non Comp for carry and why ?

  • Comp

    Votes: 20 30.8%

  • Non Comp

    Votes: 40 61.5%

  • Ports

    Votes: 5 7.7%
  • Total voters
    65
I have an Xmacro with the comp and one without. Comp has stock grip module & Holosun 407k, non comp has Icarus Precision Air (polymer) grip module and iron sights. I have no problem shooting either one accurately.
 
I voted non-comp because I don’t own a comped gun. Don’t see any advantage for a carry gun. I’m planning to do some steel challenge stuff this fall, maybe a comped setup for competition is in my future.

How often is upward blast a problem?
 
Non-Comp.

Comp is louder, more concussive, and also a great place to collect lint (build up, absorb gun oil, increase friction, ignite with discharge)
 
I can't forget the story I heard from a firearms instructor who trained border patrol agents...

Goes something like this-ish:

"I was overseeing a training session for Border Patrol Agents, and as I was walking from one range to another, I passed an officer who was running down the hall holding her chin to keep the blood from dripping. One of the drills is to shoot at close quarters, your gun is basically at the top of your belly, elbow at a 90. I learned that she was shooting a compensated gun, and the gasses went straight up into the bottom of her chin with such force that it broke the skin."

He didn't mention the eyes, but I can only imagine.

So, for me, compensated is a no-go for concealed. The only time I foresee shooting is if I can't back out of it, and that seems like VERY close quarters. Yes, of course, there is always the possibility of a 'stumble-upon-an-active-shooter-situation-where-I-can-take-a-position-and-take-careful-aim-and-take-advantage-of-the-somewhat-flatter-shooting-of-a-compensated-gun-to-save many-lives'... but I think it's much more likely that I'm going to be defending myself at point-blank, and don't want to have stuff hitting me in the eyes and chin...

My $0.05 (inflation)
 
Shot some comp guns back in the late 2000s. Didn’t hate them but wasn’t impressed either. As such, I’ve avoided them.
 
Outside of illness or frailty I don't get the point, even shooting plus p defensive loads out of my shield plus I just don't have an issue with shooting fast or accurately. the things I've found made a big difference was finding a gun that fits you, shield plus is actually way too small as my fingers basically wrap all the way around with no room for my support hand. But the shape and the texture are great so the dot returns quickly. Same story with my echelon compact with the large OEM module. The grip for me is perfect and it does have room for my support hand so the dot is right back on target very quickly. even on my full size 2011 I found that a lighter grip that just had a better fit for me was one of the more important things. people just need to find a grip and practice, especially beginners that are still learning habits and technique
 
iloveredmeat said:
I can't forget the story I heard from a firearms instructor who trained border patrol agents...

Goes something like this-ish:

"I was overseeing a training session for Border Patrol Agents, and as I was walking from one range to another, I passed an officer who was running down the hall holding her chin to keep the blood from dripping. One of the drills is to shoot at close quarters, your gun is basically at the top of your belly, elbow at a 90. I learned that she was shooting a compensated gun, and the gasses went straight up into the bottom of her chin with such force that it broke the skin."

He didn't mention the eyes, but I can only imagine.

So, for me, compensated is a no-go for concealed. The only time I foresee shooting is if I can't back out of it, and that seems like VERY close quarters. Yes, of course, there is always the possibility of a 'stumble-upon-an-active-shooter-situation-where-I-can-take-a-position-and-take-careful-aim-and-take-advantage-of-the-somewhat-flatter-shooting-of-a-compensated-gun-to-save many-lives'... but I think it's much more likely that I'm going to be defending myself at point-blank, and don't want to have stuff hitting me in the eyes and chin...

My $0.05 (inflation)
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The .05 made me laugh so hard thank you
 
Set yours up however you will actually carry it & you have tested and proven it's reliability. The rest is personal preference.

I have comps on many of my pistols these days because they reduce muzzle flip. For most folks this will transfer into faster and more accurate follow up shots, but as many have said, it will be louder, especially indoors, so there is a tradeoff. How much louder is it actually at your ear compared to a non comped barrel? No idea, I'd rather not shoot either of them without ear pro if I don't have to.

Ported barrels seem a bit louder to me than comped barrels, but that's just my subjective opinion with no factual data to back it up.

I'm fairly well used to the extra concussion now, so that part doesn't really bother me.

Shooting in competitions being in close proximity to comped guns when folks are shooting is only mildly different (outdoors). The micro 9's are a good bit louder with more concussion than the full size counterparts as well. My P365 (3.1" barrel) even felt louder to me than my G43X with Ramjet for example. But, again, no factual data to back it up, just how it felt when shooting.
 
iloveredmeat said:
I can't forget the story I heard from a firearms instructor who trained border patrol agents...

Goes something like this-ish:

"I was overseeing a training session for Border Patrol Agents, and as I was walking from one range to another, I passed an officer who was running down the hall holding her chin to keep the blood from dripping. One of the drills is to shoot at close quarters, your gun is basically at the top of your belly, elbow at a 90. I learned that she was shooting a compensated gun, and the gasses went straight up into the bottom of her chin with such force that it broke the skin."

He didn't mention the eyes, but I can only imagine.

So, for me, compensated is a no-go for concealed. The only time I foresee shooting is if I can't back out of it, and that seems like VERY close quarters. Yes, of course, there is always the possibility of a 'stumble-upon-an-active-shooter-situation-where-I-can-take-a-position-and-take-careful-aim-and-take-advantage-of-the-somewhat-flatter-shooting-of-a-compensated-gun-to-save many-lives'... but I think it's much more likely that I'm going to be defending myself at point-blank, and don't want to have stuff hitting me in the eyes and chin...

My $0.05 (inf
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iloveredmeat said:
I can't forget the story I heard from a firearms instructor who trained border patrol agents...

Goes something like this-ish:

"I was overseeing a training session for Border Patrol Agents, and as I was walking from one range to another, I passed an officer who was running down the hall holding her chin to keep the blood from dripping. One of the drills is to shoot at close quarters, your gun is basically at the top of your belly, elbow at a 90. I learned that she was shooting a compensated gun, and the gasses went straight up into the bottom of her chin with such force that it broke the skin."

He didn't mention the eyes, but I can only imagine.

So, for me, compensated is a no-go for concealed. The only time I foresee shooting is if I can't back out of it, and that seems like VERY close quarters. Yes, of course, there is always the possibility of a 'stumble-upon-an-active-shooter-situation-where-I-can-take-a-position-and-take-careful-aim-and-take-advantage-of-the-somewhat-flatter-shooting-of-a-compensated-gun-to-save many-lives'... but I think it's much more likely that I'm going to be defending myself at point-blank, and don't want to have stuff hitting me in the eyes and chin...

My $0.05 (inflation)
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chiroken007 said:
Non-Comp.

Comp is louder, more concussive, and also a great place to collect lint (build up, absorb gun oil, increase friction, ignite with discharge)
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These stories seem far fetched having shot comped rifles from the hip. The potential damage to your eyes are definitely there, but we're not talking ported barrels where you can frag your face. And I can't imagine any collection of lint is going to do much other than blast into the air. You can take a torch to clp and it doesn't ignite. I should a YouTube channel proving, or more than likely disproving the stuff I read in forums.

As for comped vs non, I don't really think it's any more practical for a carry gun than a non compped gun. You sure as hell better understand the potential hazards if you carry comped.
 
The ignore part was more theoretical and less likely. The rest of it is relevant. The ramjet on our p365 is stiff on the slide already so more friction isn’t ideal.
 
Brandon Breeze said:
Set yours up however you will actually carry it & you have tested and proven it's reliability. The rest is personal preference.

I have comps on many of my pistols these days because they reduce muzzle flip. For most folks this will transfer into faster and more accurate follow up shots, but as many have said, it will be louder, especially indoors, so there is a tradeoff. How much louder is it actually at your ear compared to a non comped barrel? No idea, I'd rather not shoot either of them without ear pro if I don't have to.

Ported barrels seem a bit louder to me than comped barrels, but that's just my subjective opinion with no factual data to back it up.

I'm fairly well used to the extra concussion now, so that part doesn't really bother me.

Shooting in competitions being in close proximity to comped guns when folks are shooting is only mildly different (outdoors). The micro 9's are a good bit louder with more concussion than the full size counterparts as well. My P365 (3.1" barrel) even felt louder to me than my G43X with Ramjet for example. But, again, no factual data to back it up, just how it felt when shooting.
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Yeah but with almost all defensive shootings being within let's say 10 yards it doesn't matter lol
 
One more thing to go wrong on a life saving tool. Hard pass. For a range toy, maybe, but I don’t shoot fast enough to notice and John wick isn’t real.
 
RustVendor said:
Outside of illness or frailty I don't get the point, even shooting plus p defensive loads out of my shield plus I just don't have an issue with shooting fast or accurately. the things I've found made a big difference was finding a gun that fits you, shield plus is actually way too small as my fingers basically wrap all the way around with no room for my support hand. But the shape and the texture are great so the dot returns quickly. Same story with my echelon compact with the large OEM module. The grip for me is perfect and it does have room for my support hand so the dot is right back on target very quickly. even on my full size 2011 I found that a lighter grip that just had a better fit for me was one of the more important things. people just need to find a grip and practice, especially beginners that are still learning habits and technique
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In my early to mid-50s I was diagnosed with with mild to moderate arthritis in my hands (thumbs to be precise). I still shoot .45 ACP and no issues the next day but I know my days are numbered. What I’ve done is bought more 9 mm pistols and in addition to polymer frame pistols I’ve got metal frame pistols. Toss on lights, etc, I think I should be ok for several decades. If not, will eventually work my way down to .380 or .38 special.
 
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