Fingerprinting soon required for renewals

[38special]

I've just learned that effected Sept 1 26, repeat live scan fingerprinting will be required for renewals. What is the possible logic in requiring that, other than to throw yet another obstacle in our paths?
I understand the purpose of original fingerprinting...to be sure we are who we claim to be. But once that's done, couldn't they just check for any change in our records since the previous scan? Don't they track us anyway? What possible benefit to anyone by adding this requirement?

 

[WitchMountain]

I've just learned that effected Sept 1 26, repeat live scan fingerprinting will be required for renewals. What is the possible logic in requiring that, other than to throw yet another obstacle in our paths?
I understand the purpose of original fingerprinting...to be sure we are who we claim to be. But once that's done, couldn't they just check for any change in our records since the previous scan? Don't they track us anyway? What possible benefit to anyone by adding this requirement?

The logic is discouragement or profit. Either way, they win. (Guessing you know this, already)

 

[38special]

Yep and yep. Still needed to complain though and possibly alert those who, like me, didn't realize

I'm eligible to submit renewal in July, so possible I'll skate this time

 

[WitchMountain]

Yep and yep. Still needed to complain though and possibly alert those who, like me, didn't realize

I'm eligible to submit renewal in July, so possible I'll skate this time

How much trouble is it to renew, after skipping? Maybe I'll do the same.

 

[Thelastkingofhk]

Yep and yep. Still needed to complain though and possibly alert those who, like me, didn't realize

I'm eligible to submit renewal in July, so possible I'll skate this time

Same for me. Eligible to submit in July as well.

 

[M_N04H]

Renewal December. .

 

[Thelastkingofhk]

I remember when I had my Nevada CCW prior to getting my CA one, Nevada also had you do live scan again for their renewals, and I also wondered what the point was.

 

[RickyRicardo]

The goal is to simply make it more of a physical, financial hassle, and also waste time.

 

[clantongang4]

This law is a total pile of . It is my understanding that once you have livescan done it's pretty much forever with the DOJ. If someone is arrested or convicted of something that would prohibit firearm ownership the DOJ would be notified. There is no reason to have it done every two years. Flat out money grab to further suppress CCWs.

 

[riceman]

WitchMountain​

How much trouble is it to renew, after skipping? Maybe I'll do the same.
16 hours of instruction, new application fee
Sutter County Renewal is $65
New application fee $205

Playing devil's advocate here. So, you skate on CCW what happens when you decide to get back in the game? A friend of mine just decided to get his CCW after a lapse of 10 years. He did all the prerequisites for getting a new CCW filled out the online form and submitted. He has now been waiting at least 6 weeks for DOJ to process. I renewed in November 15, 2025, via the county portal added 2 new guns, this was done at around 1AM and was headed to the airport at 6AM. I was sitting on the plane headed to Montana. I am getting ready to dial the Sherrif's office to see if I had done something wrong on the form, when they call to inform me, I need to bring the new guns to be verified, and he will go ahead approve it now if I do. Told him I would be back in a week he said no problem.
I will never let my CCW lapse

 

[38special]

WitchMountain​

How much trouble is it to renew, after skipping? Maybe I'll do the same.
16 hours of instruction, new application fee
Sutter County Renewal is $65
New application fee $205

Playing devil's advocate here. So, you skate on CCW what happens when you decide to get back in the game? A friend of mine just decided to get his CCW after a lapse of 10 years. He did all the prerequisites for getting a new CCW filled out the online form and submitted. He has now been waiting at least 6 weeks for DOJ to process. I renewed in November 15, 2025, via the county portal added 2 new guns, this was done at around 1AM and was headed to the airport at 6AM. I was sitting on the plane headed to Montana. I am getting ready to dial the Sherrif's office to see if I had done something wrong on the form, when they call to inform me, I need to bring the new guns to be verified, and he will go ahead approve it now if I do. Told him I would be back in a week he said no problem.
I will never let my CCW lapse

No, sorry for being unclear. By "skate" I meant that my application would be entered in July although the existing license wouldn't expire until October, and therefore I might escape the need for fingerprinting until two years later. The question is whether the date the renewal is submitted or the date of expiration would determine the need for additional fingerprinting.

I agree...won't let it lapse

 

[Thelastkingofhk]

No, sorry for being unclear. By "skate" I meant that my application would be entered in July although the existing license wouldn't expire until October, and therefore I might escape the need for fingerprinting until two years later. The question is whether the date the renewal is submitted or the date of expiration would determine the need for additional fingerprinting.

I agree...won't let it lapse

Our timelines are similar, as my permit expires in October as well. I would think that it would apply to anymore submitting renewal after September 1st.

There is no rhyme or reason for this other than to profit for them and to make another unnecessary step for us.

I remember 4 years ago when they first introduced SB918 (I think that was the number), the precursor to SB2. They also had introduced a live scan requirement for all renewals. They then put a revision stating that anyone who was already in the renewal process by the time the requirement started would have been grandfathered until the next renewal. I would expect the same this time.

 

[NorCalBusa]

Getting my 5th renewal a month before- squeaking in baby!

 

[Jimi Jah]

I get the feeling California doesn't want people here to have the permit.

 

[DrJonesUSA]

I've just learned that effected Sept 1 26, repeat live scan fingerprinting will be required for renewals. What is the possible logic in requiring that, other than to throw yet another obstacle in our paths?
I understand the purpose of original fingerprinting...to be sure we are who we claim to be. But once that's done, couldn't they just check for any change in our records since the previous scan? Don't they track us anyway? What possible benefit to anyone by adding this requirement?

a) What is the cause / source of this? Another f-ing law? Which one?

b) Cause & purpose - very much maliciously intended - is to make owning, carrying, using, obtaining firearms as difficult, costly, burdensome, embarrassing (CCW holder MASSIVE data leak), unpleasant as absolutely possible.

We do not hate them enough.

 

[HarleyLowRiderST]

I just did my renewal online and course qualification this past weekend. I thought it was interesting that for the course qualification I was never asked for ID.
I could have sent anyone to qualify the 3 guns on my permit. Just a simple role call in the morning. Same for initial qualification. Seemed odd to me.

 

[MattB]

I have never heard a reasonable explanation for Live Scan. It is outrageously priced relative to ink fingerprints and seems to have no benefits.