California to start issuing non-resident CCW permits? CA DOJ bulletin released

[Motion122]

I wonder which way is easier and quicker for someone with dual residency to get the CCW?

 

[M_N04H]

There is a current lawsuit against LASD plus the U.S. Department of Justice is investigating LASD over the time it is taking to issue.

Even Long Beach didn't take that long

 

[Lady Ruger]

what are the easiest counties to apply to? I'm from Arizona but might be moving to California in another year or so. I figure I should apply now then.

Once you move you will be a resident. At that time you will need to apply just like any other resident.

 

[1911-CV]

Riverside County has their program up and running and have been pro-2A. They are also close to Arizona. Link to Riverside County Sheriff

 

[1911-CV]

I wonder which way is easier and quicker for someone with dual residency to get the CCW?

You may think you have a 'dual residency' but if you have enough in CA to believe that (property, business, bank account, etc.) then CA will claim you are a resident and you only have one choice. There are several threads on the lengthy list of things you cannot have in CA to be free of the state's clutches.

 

[NorCalBusa]

You may think you have a 'dual residency' but if you have enough in CA to believe that (property, business, bank account, etc.) then CA will claim you are a resident and you only have one choice. There are several threads on the lengthy list of things you cannot have in CA to be free of the state's clutches.

With Newsome's addiction to spending, he needs every dollar he can steal get.

(Where are the threads to which you refer)

 

[1911-CV]

With Newsome's addiction to spending, he needs every dollar he can steal get.

(Where are the threads to which you refer)

The threads seem to be over on that other site that only works a few hours a day (on a good day). Anyway, I think this is the (lengthy) list. Some are easier to meet than others and some are downright sneaky...

• Amount of time you spend in California.
• Location of your spouse/partner and children.
• Location of your real property and investments.
• State that issued your driver’s license.
• State where your vehicles are registered.
• State where you maintain your professional licenses.
• State where you are registered to vote.
• Location of the banks where you maintain accounts.
• The origination point of your financial transactions.
• Location of your medical professionals and other healthcare providers (doctors, dentists, etc.), accountants, and attorneys.
• Location of your social ties, such as your place of worship, professional associations, or social and country clubs of which you are a member.
• Permanence of your work assignments outside California.

 

[NorCalBusa]

The threads seem to be over on that other site that only works a few hours a day (on a good day). Anyway, I think this is the (lengthy) list. Some are easier to meet than others and some are downright sneaky...

• Amount of time you spend in California.
• Location of your spouse/partner and children.
• Location of your real property and investments.
• State that issued your driver’s license.
• State where your vehicles are registered.
• State where you maintain your professional licenses.
• State where you are registered to vote.
• Location of the banks where you maintain accounts.
• The origination point of your financial transactions.
• Location of your medical professionals and other healthcare providers (doctors, dentists, etc.), accountants, and attorneys.
• Location of your social ties, such as your place of worship, professional associations, or social and country clubs of which you are a member.
• Permanence of your work assignments outside California.

Seems like something the state should make public- what items and what "weight" each item has in making their decision. Keeping it a secret generates no trust or ability to comply. Reminds me a news story a year or so ago- Newsom, being Newsom, wants to go after your money AFTER you move out of Kaliforniastan. GLWT...

 

[lopez1171]

So I have to apply with my local PD, but someone from out of state can apply at any PD they choose? Hmm

 

[NorCalBusa]

So I have to apply with my local PD, but someone from out of state can apply at any PD they choose? Hmm

That is incorrect. They can apply to any agency (Sheriff or PD) that issues CCW's.

 

[SSSLICKSSS]

Riverside says you have to do range/qualifications with only these, no exemptions so that means you need to come to CA at least once before you get approved.
Also 6 firearms like residents of Riverside.

So for any out of state people apply for Riverside I would say. Plus Riverside is super easy.

 

[lopez1171]

That is incorrect. They can apply to any agency (Sheriff or PD) that issues CCW's.

No argument here, but legit question. How was the statement wrong? I’m limited but they are not.

 

[elemental]

No argument here, but legit question. How was the statement wrong? I’m limited but they are not.

I think his point was any agency and not just PD. In fact, I know many PDs that do not issue and instead defer you to the SD.



Non-residents cannot apply to any agency at least not without changing their travel plans. You can apply in any location that you intend to spend time in. The most common method is to track where you sleep. It does not state how long there is flexibility. You can make the arrangement that you drove though the county, but that might not meet “spent time in” requirement if they challenge you on it.

 

[elemental]

Riverside says you have to do range/qualifications with only these, no exemptions so that means you need to come to CA at least once before you get approved.
Also 6 firearms like residents of Riverside.

So for any out of state people apply for Riverside I would say. Plus Riverside is super easy.

Old data. They are required to allow online classroom training either directly or from any other CA CCW certified class. Live fire can be done within 70 miles of the applicants location.

 

[elemental]

The threads seem to be over on that other site that only works a few hours a day (on a good day). Anyway, I think this is the (lengthy) list. Some are easier to meet than others and some are downright sneaky...

• Amount of time you spend in California.
• Location of your spouse/partner and children.
• Location of your real property and investments.
• State that issued your driver’s license.
• State where your vehicles are registered.
• State where you maintain your professional licenses.
• State where you are registered to vote.
• Location of the banks where you maintain accounts.
• The origination point of your financial transactions.
• Location of your medical professionals and other healthcare providers (doctors, dentists, etc.), accountants, and attorneys.
• Location of your social ties, such as your place of worship, professional associations, or social and country clubs of which you are a member.
• Permanence of your work assignments outside California.

This is mostly wrong or backwards. We are talking about personal residency at the federal level and more specifically primary residency.



• Amount of time you spend in California.

This is the only one that defines residency. (counted by nights)

• Location of your spouse/partner and children.

N/A

• Location of your real property and investments.

N/A

• State that issued your driver’s license.

Backwards. Residency defines where you get your DL (primary residency). It must be your primary residency (by state). Students have a special deal, but in general their residency is where they came from at least when in the dorms.

• State where your vehicles are registered.

This is the permanent location of the vehicle.

• State where you maintain your professional licenses.

N/A

• State where you are registered to vote.

Backwards. You are registered to vote from your residency (primary)

• Location of the banks where you maintain accounts.

N/A

• The origination point of your financial transactions.

N/A. This is a tax point related to if the transaction occurred in the state and is therefore taxable.

• Location of your medical professionals and other healthcare providers (doctors, dentists, etc.), accountants, and attorneys.

N/A.

• Location of your social ties, such as your place of worship, professional associations, or social and country clubs of which you are a member.

N/A.

• Permanence of your work assignments outside California.

N/A. This is another tax related topic. Companies track this because they must pay non-resident taxes if you are working in another state. Technically even if it’s only one day.

 

[21SF 2.0]

The threads seem to be over on that other site that only works a few hours a day (on a good day). Anyway, I think this is the (lengthy) list. Some are easier to meet than others and some are downright sneaky...

• Amount of time you spend in California.
• Location of your spouse/partner and children.
• Location of your real property and investments.
• State that issued your driver’s license.
• State where your vehicles are registered.
• State where you maintain your professional licenses.
• State where you are registered to vote.
• Location of the banks where you maintain accounts.
• The origination point of your financial transactions.
• Location of your medical professionals and other healthcare providers (doctors, dentists, etc.), accountants, and attorneys.
• Location of your social ties, such as your place of worship, professional associations, or social and country clubs of which you are a member.
• Permanence of your work assignments outside California.

Yea Calguns, the “other side” with all the helpful information for the last 30 years. lol

 

[Call_me_Tom]

California residence can only carry guns registered in their name by the state. How will that work with out of state residence?

 

[1911-CV]

California residence can only carry guns registered in their name by the state. How will that work with out of state residence?

Another benefit for our out-of-state applicants...

It shall be the responsibility of the applicant, if approved and issued a CCW license, to confirm that any handgun they carry in California, in its current configuration, is legal to possess in California. It shall also be the responsibility of the applicant to be aware of locations where it is not legal to carry a firearm in California. (See, e.g., Penal Code, § 26230; DLE Information Bulletin 2025‐DLE‐06, https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/2025‐dle‐06.pdf.)

 

[NorCalBusa]

Another benefit for our out-of-state applicants...

It shall be the responsibility of the applicant, if approved and issued a CCW license, to confirm that any handgun they carry in California, in its current configuration, is legal to possess in California. It shall also be the responsibility of the applicant to be aware of locations where it is not legal to carry a firearm in California. (See, e.g., Penal Code, § 26230; DLE Information Bulletin 2025‐DLE‐06, https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/2025‐dle‐06.pdf.)

404 on the pdf link. Go here; https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/2025-dle-06.pdf (looks the same to me, but it worked)

 

[Ro-bo]

Just an FYI:
Madera county SO says they offer a free (to new applicants) 16 hour CCW course. I don't have any other details than what's in the link.