2025 AB 1333 Zbur: creates duty to retreat, limits justified homicide in self defense

[Librarian]

You're gonna love this one ...

Bill Text - AB-1333 Crimes: homicide.

(b) Homicide is not justifiable when committed by a person in all of the following cases:
(1) When the person was outside of their residence and knew that using force likely to cause death or great bodily injury could have been avoided with complete safety by retreating.
(2) When the person used more force than was reasonably necessary to defend against a danger.
(3) When the person was the assailant, engaged in mutual combat, or knowingly engaged in conduct reasonably likely to provoke a person to commit a felony or do some great bodily injury, except if either of the following circumstances apply:
(A) The person reasonably believed that they were in imminent danger of death or great bodily injury, and had exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force likely to cause death or great bodily injury.
(B) In good faith, the person withdrew from the encounter with the other assailant or assailants and indicated clearly to the other assailant or assailants that the person desired to withdraw and terminated the use of any force, but the other assailant or assailants continued or resumed the use of force.

Here's Zbur's official biography - https://a51.asmdc.org/biography - see if there are any warning signs.

 

[Pewpewwagon]

What is the current law? Stand your ground?

 

[TheAverageShooter]

What is the current law? Stand your ground?

I believe the first link Librarian posted shows the changes from the existing law to the proposed bill. Basically going from stand your ground to duty to retreat. I really hope this BS doesn't make it through.

 

[boltstop]

Who will benefit from this change in the law?

 

[Pewpewwagon]

Bad guys benefit from this. They become emboldened.

 

[boltstop]

Bad guys benefit from this. They become emboldened.

Exactly.

And if you offer 1 ounce of resistance to the bad guy, the state will prosecute YOU and then the bad guy will sue you out of existence.

 

[BasedMerchant]

Man, California is really putting me on a timer to leave. It's frustrating because all the high paying jobs are here, but so are all the criminals and pro-crime politicians.

 

[Eatdirt]

This guy [ Zbur ] checks All the democratic boxes .....
Yup...Their kind of guy ....

 

[BasedMerchant]

Exactly.

And if you offer 1 ounce of resistance to the bad guy, the state will prosecute YOU and then the bad guy will sue you out of existence.

Textbook anarcho-tyranny - create so many rules and laws that everyone is a lawbreaker, then selectively enforce them against enemies of the state (law abiding citizens, white, male, Christian, etc )

 

[DuckDawg22]

(2) When the person used more force than was reasonably necessary to defend against a danger.

Really loved this one, who gets to determine "reasonably necessary?"

"Joe, you could have killed him with one shot but you fired four, STRAIGHT TO JAIL!"

 

[fiatlux]

(2) When the person used more force than was reasonably necessary to defend against a danger.

Really loved this one, who gets to determine "reasonably necessary?"

"Joe, you could have killed him with one shot but you fired four, STRAIGHT TO JAIL!"

Court would rule that you should've used pepper spray instead of shooting them and straight to jail you go

 

[JohntheBaptized]

Makes me second guess going through with getting my CCW.

 

[Tank Mechanic]

I'll get back to packing my boxes for my upcoming move to the USA. (Hot Springs, Arkansas}

 

[Eatdirt]

Makes me second guess going through with getting my CCW.

That's Exactly what They want !!!!!

 

[Librarian]

Zbur is getting roasted on X, and claims he is preparing an amendment.

AB 1333 was never intended to limit a crime victim’s right to defend yourself, your family, or home. The goal is to prevent wannabe vigilantes like Kyle Rittenhouse from provoking violence & claiming self defense after the fact. We will amend the bill to make this crystal clear.

And then he is getting 'Hey, that's libeling Rittenhouse!', as well he should be getting.

 

[foothillman]

The new self defense class in California High School.