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Range Report: CZ TS2 Orange and CZC A01 LD

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Greetings Fellow Firearms Fanciers!

Today I had the pleasure of trying two new (to me) guns that I bought via PPT. One was the CZ TS2 Orange, the top-of-the-line TS2, and an A01 by CZ Custom in Mesa, Arizona, licensed by CZ.

As some of you know, both guns were covered in some sickly-sweet cologne which at this point will trigger mild rage if I smell it elsewhere, such was the trauma of fighting these odiferous molecules. The solution? A member here recommended trying coffee beans, so I sealed each gun in an ammo case with plenty of coffee beans for a few hours. This neutralized the odor very well, though some insist that it merely covers up the odors. Same difference to me, as long as I can't smell it. I took both guns out to the range today and a little gunsmoke does wonders to cover up cologne stank as well, right?

I admit, I'm a CZ fanboy. I have been since I started researching hanguns at least a year before I bought my first in late 2024. Back then, the CZ of interest (an SP-01) was on the roster, so I bought that as my first-ever handgun and had it customized; EPS Carry optic cut by Primary Machine, Vytal grips in two colors (orange/black and red/black) and a full CGW upgrade with reach-reduction kit. Shoots beautifully, though my groups were never great with it at 16 yards.

I also bought and sold a Shadow 2 Compact and Shadow 2 Blue out of sheer curiosity. I sold these because I felt there was too much overlap with the Cajunized SP-01 and the S2C was a little snappy.

A person on this forum was selling a Shadow 2 Orange, so I was curious to try it out. He also let me try his TS2 Orange and um, it started a revolution in my brain. I had to have a TS2 Orange! We've since become friends so he knows my journey up until this point. Trying out different guns is one of the best aspects of range life, and I'm appreciative of that fact. You meet the nicest people at the range.

The TS2 Orange is a longer, larger, heavier gun and it uses its own type of mags distinct from the CZ75 mags which work in the Shadow 2 or SP-01. It's heavy, has a polished bull barrel, is hand-fit, and it's got a single-action trigger pull around a pound and change. This was my first polished bull barrel gun, and really the first SAO trigger on a gun that didn't need work to remove a stuck optic plate (that's another story). I love a heavy pistol for reduced recoil. I got pretty decent groups with the TS2 at 16 yards, better than I've ever done. I didn't lube the TS2O before going to the range and I probably should have, but no stovepipes or failure to feeds. I'll lube it for next time. I should have learned my lesson from the first time I shot a dry SP-01.

Downside? Aggressive backstrap checkering hurts my palm a bit, but I'll either let my hands toughen up (I'm a guitarist so this isn't my first rodeo) or I'll get some grip tape for the checkering to ease the pain. No other complaints. Beautiful heavy gun, iron sights, soft-shooting with Sellier & Bellot 124gr rounds.

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The A01 LD (Long Dust Cover) is a CZ clone licensed for CZ Custom (in Mesa, AZ) by CZ (Czech Republic). This gun is milled from steel so it's a heavy block, with tight clearances and a polished bull barrel. The takedown is a little weird the way one has to compress the recoil spring and use the takedown pin (this is tough if you have smaller hands like me), but I'm ordering a toolless guide rod and spring to improve that. Weirdly, CZC sells the toolless guide rod and plug but they don't sell this kit with the "Accuplug" (out of stock), even though they have the Accuplug on its own. Why not take a solo Accuplug and bundle it with the regular guide rod if someone orders one? Beats me. Seems like a simple solution.

The A01 came with a HEAVILY-scented card (due to the original owners) explaining that the A01 is designed for 115 grain ammo. I shoot 124 exclusively, but I used my FFL03 to buy my first batch of 115gr for this gun. Might be noticeably better. I also ordered the sampler pack from Super Vel, an amazing legacy ammo company that has been through the WRINGER. If you like to read and want to read a touching story of a beleaguered ammo underdog making good, read the story of Super Vel on their site. Super Vel invented the Full Metal Jacket so their story and struggle is worth a read.

The A01 uses P09 or P10 magazines, so now I have three distinct mag types for my 9mm guns; the CZ75 mags, TS2 mags, and P-09 mags. There are LOK grips for the A01 that allow one to use CZ 75 mags, but they take weeks for LOK to make and ship. The CZ 75 or Shadow 2 mag catch is required for this to work. Weirdly, CZC does not sell the grips needed for this conversion, but at least LOK does.

The A01 is fantastic. It feels like a Shadow 2 milled from a block of solid steel and with the tighter-tolerance bull barrel of the TS2. The backstrap checkering is much finer, less bothersome. It shoots a lot like the TS2, but in a smaller package. I did have the A01 jam up on me where I couldn't rack it because I didn't lube it, but lesson learned. A range manager was able to clear it and I'll have it lubed with Lucas Extreme Duty oil before I take it to the range again. I'm sure the coffee beans used to remove the cologne odor may have also acted like a dessicant of sorts. I offered the range manager a moist towelette (by *Hoppe's) for this hands but he joked that it was too dry to actually leave oil residue. LOL. Good one.

Both of these guns are heavy, just how I like 'em. Soft-shooting, tighter groups (my best yet)., with plenty of room for improvement. Any questions, just ask!

*Thankfully these don't smell like Hoppe's No. 9. It's a light, fresh, citrus scent.
 

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Dab some of that No. 9 behind your ears for the ladies and get a nice 1911 or even a 2011. CZs are just stepping stones to that which has yet to be equaled; the 1911 trigger.
 
Dab some of that No. 9 behind your ears for the ladies and get a nice 1911 or even a 2011. CZs are just stepping stones to that which has yet to be equaled; the 1911 trigger.
I'll take your word for it! I do have a Platypus on the way, but it's gonna take months to arrive. :D

P.S. I did have an Atlas Erebus but I didn't like the way it felt on my thumb bones, so I sold it. I think I like the TS2 better than one of the best 2011s out there.
 
They all have long grips to me, with that humpback. Not for me. Too damn big. I don’t mind a heavy gun, in fact I prefer one, but not with a massive grip. Don’t like the way it feels in my hand.
 
They all have long grips to me, with that humpback. Not for me. Too damn big. I don’t mind a heavy gun, in fact I prefer one, but not with a massive grip. Don’t like the way it feels in my hand.

I hear ya. I've only known full-sized grips so it's kinda the norm for me. I never went (or stayed on) the small/light gun route, but maybe that's a good thing.
 
I recently purchased the CZ 75 Tactical Sport off of G.B. since it is still on the roster although not manufactured in a many years so lots being unloaded like everything else that is still on the roster. I haven't had a chance to shoot it but has about a 1.8lb trigger.
 
I recently purchased the CZ 75 Tactical Sport off of G.B. since it is still on the roster although not manufactured in a many years so lots being unloaded like everything else that is still on the roster. I haven't had a chance to shoot it but has about a 1.8lb trigger.

Oh wow, lots to uncover there once you finally get to shoot it. You have the first gen Tac Sport. Do you know if it's a blue, green, or orange? For years the TS guns were not even on my radar, but I'm glad I got to try one by happenstance.
 
If the TS grips feel a little large, try the 75B. The best version IMO is the SAO in 9mm. It's a tiny bit heavier setup than the regular 75B in 9mm. They also made the 75B in .40, which also has the slightly heavier setup. These can still be found once in a while, but rare since not currently in production.
@Wolkenflieger The grips needed for your conversion would only take a few minutes to make, but it's likely only done in batches, when enough demand builds up. I made grips for the tanfoglio/Witness small frame back in the day when they were the schizzle, shooting 9X21 major.
Freedom week mags are your friend.
 
Oh wow, lots to uncover there once you finally get to shoot it. You have the first gen Tac Sport. Do you know if it's a blue, green, or orange? For years the TS guns were not even on my radar, but I'm glad I got to try one by happenstance.
The grips are from CZC so I don't know but has S.S. Barrel. It looks brand new the prior owner may have moved on to new models. Lots of good deals on the first generations which is still on CA Roster cuz the TS2 blue new ones are selling for $1200's.
 
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I just got my LOK palm-swell bogies for the A01 which will allow use of CZ 75 mags. I also installed the CZ 75 mag catch myself, but getting that mag release spring back in was a bear, especially without curved pliers. I ended up installing from the bottom which I've never seen done in a video.

Now I'm stuck on the retaining washer, unable to push it over the plunger. CZC explained that I need both hands to push the plunger down but a guy in a CZC video did it by hand...which is crazy because I couldn't get the washer into the gap at all. If both hands are pushing the plunger, then what's holding the washer? I'm trying to get more clarity on this process.

CZC also mentioned removing all internals to install the trigger lifter bar and washer first, but didnt explain why this is done. I should know more soon. I'm learning a whole lot working on own guns! In the meantime I finally got some proper curved pliers.

Once I get that done I'll finally be able to test the A01 with CZ 75 mags and proper lubrication.
 
I just got my LOK palm-swell bogies for the A01 which will allow use of CZ 75 mags. I also installed the CZ 75 mag catch myself, but getting that mag release spring back in was a bear, especially without curved pliers. I ended up installing from the bottom which I've never seen done in a video.

Now I'm stuck on the retaining washer, unable to push it over the plunger. CZC explained that I need both hands to push the plunger down but a guy in a CZC video did it by hand...which is crazy because I couldn't get the washer into the gap at all. If both hands are pushing the plunger, then what's holding the washer? I'm trying to get more clarity on this process.

CZC also mentioned removing all internals to install the trigger lifter bar and washer first, but didnt explain why this is done. I should know more soon. I'm learning a whole lot working on own guns! In the meantime I finally got some proper curved pliers.

Once I get that done I'll finally be able to test the A01 with CZ 75 mags and proper lubrication.
I found that Harbor Freight has lots of tools that you will find may find helpful working on your firearms with 1600 stores they are everywhere for pliers, picks, punches, etc. In addition, check out the knock off stream light weapon light for $49.99.
 
I found that Harbor Freight has lots of tools that you will find may find helpful working on your firearms with 1600 stores they are everywhere for pliers, picks, punches, etc. In addition, check out the knock off stream light weapon light for $49.99.
I bought some curved pliers as seen in CZC's mag catch replacement video, but my novel bottom up approach works too. Harbor Freight has been great when I need a tool now...been going there recently.

I am absolutely stuck on the A01 retaining washer install though...waiting on CZC to give me a call on that so I can ask some follow-up questions. They mentioned removing all of the internals to make the retaining washer easier but I don't see how that would help for all that extra work.

The LOK palm swell bogies feel amazing on the A01 though, and the CZ 75 mags fit like a glove.
 
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