CCW Frustration with expensive and nearly useless CCW permit

[BillSmith]

Joker67- my understanding is different than yours. Ammo and weapon can be in same container. Just cannot be loaded.

 

[Deleted member 11316]

I’m hard pressed to believe an officer will actually escalate if you’re engaging with candor and respect.

They can’t just violate 4A because they ‘think you might be carrying’

I ask LAPD often how they feel about carrying, they all say the same thing: “that’s your constitutional right”

So in the hypothetical situation where I contact police, and I’m “not supposed to be carrying per AB1078” I’d tell them “I’m CCW and carrying” regardless.

I highly doubt anything becomes of it.

In fact, I’ve had many interactions with LAPD, and LASD, and none have led to any issues. One was exhibition of speed, and blowing a red light right in front of LAPD. But I exercised candor, with respect, and nothing became of it.

 

[1911-CV]

was going to ask this in a new thread but figured here would be fine.

new ccw holder. during my classes the instructor stated while driving even with a ccw permit the firearm must be locked up. no glovebox, no fanny pack. hard locked container.
this is opposite of some of the information i've been reading here. and even garnered a good amount of pushback from people renewing in the class. but he was pretty confident about it. i'd like to not lock my gun up in the trunk like before, and have it on my person while driving or on my motorcycle.

i wasn't able to find anything non-anecdotal around this online. hoping you guys can help.

Instructor was incorrect (or misunderstood). You are the CCW holder, the firearm must be under your control and concealed but can be holstered, in a glovebox (caution on this one if you have a passenger), on the seat beside you (concealed), in a door pocket, etc., etc.

Perhaps the instructor was referring to a firearm not on your permit, or to a third firearm (SB2 limits the number of CCW firearms being 'carried' to 2, even in counties that allow more to be listed on the permit)?

 

[SomeOne]

Maybe you misunderstood. You can drive with a holstered gun. If it is not on your person, it has to be in a lockbox and I believe the Democrats want the ammo in a separate container than the one holding the pistol. Beyond retarded.

No on both counts. It your CCW-registered gun is not on you, it has to be within your control, e.g. center console or under your sit or between your seat and the console. Can it be in the glovebox? Yes, but if you have a passenger in the car, the situation can turn a little ugly.
Ammo does not have to be in a different container at all. There is no statute that requires that. The closest statute requires the gun to be fully unloaded and locked up when transferred. It applies to your non-CCW firearms only.

 

[Jimi Jah]

Glove box storage is singled out as illegal in California. Is there an exception written in the concealed carry laws here?

 

[1911-CV]

Glove box storage is singled out as illegal in California. Is there an exception written in the concealed carry laws here?

"Storage" is leaving your CCW gun in the car without you there to have it under your control.

 

[Dvrjon]

Glove box storage is singled out as illegal in California. Is there an exception written in the concealed carry laws here?

Yes.

 

[SomeOne]

Glove box storage is singled out as illegal in California. Is there an exception written in the concealed carry laws here?

It's not considered an enclosed container for transporting the firearm. However, your registered CCW does not have to be transported in such a container, thus this statute does not apply.

 

[Deleted member 11316]

Can you carry more than one firearm at the same time?

 

[SomeOne]

Can you carry more than one firearm at the same time?

In California you may carry two registered CCW.